Tennessee judge grants injunction against the NCAA (NIL related)

[Mr Janny]

Hadn't seen this posted anywhere yet, but it's a pretty big deal.

Effectively the ruling prevents the NCAA from banning third parties from paying athletes to attend a particular school.

It's a temporary injunction, but the judge was pretty clear in saying that the NCAA's policy most likely violates antitrust laws.

"While maintaining competitive balance in college sports is “a legitimate and important endeavor,” spreading competition evenly across the member institutions by restraining trade is precisely the type of anticompetitive conduct the Sherman Act seeks to prevent."

Judge hands NCAA another loss, says compensation rules likely violate antitrust law, harm athletes

A federal judge has barred the NCAA from enforcing its rules prohibiting name, image and likeness compensation from being used to recruit athletes.

apnews.com

 

[CyCrazy]

Shocking, the NCAA might as well throw in the towel and call it a day. They are effectively done now.

 

[NorthCyd]

Practically I'm not sure it changes much since we basically had pay for play already under the guise of NIL from the collectives. This just allows them to do away with the pretense it's not pay for play.

 

[Clonehomer]

Hadn't seen this posted anywhere yet, but it's a pretty big deal.

Effectively the ruling prevents the NCAA from banning third parties from paying athletes to attend a particular school.

It's a temporary injunction, but the judge was pretty clear in saying that the NCAA's policy most likely violates antitrust laws.

"While maintaining competitive balance in college sports is “a legitimate and important endeavor,” spreading competition evenly across the member institutions by restraining trade is precisely the type of anticompetitive conduct the Sherman Act seeks to prevent."

Judge hands NCAA another loss, says compensation rules likely violate antitrust law, harm athletes

A federal judge has barred the NCAA from enforcing its rules prohibiting name, image and likeness compensation from being used to recruit athletes.

apnews.com

i thought the NCAA was exempt from antitrust laws. And that’s what congress always threatened to remove when schools got left out of power conferences.

 

[Mr Janny]

Practically I'm not sure it changes much since we basically had pay for play already under the guise of NIL from the collectives. This just allows them to do away with the pretense it's not pay for play.

True, but I still say it's significant, because NIL collectives sort of sprung up as a gray area after the NCAA issued their initial stance allowing NIL. Their status within the NCAA rules hadn't really been tested, and I think everyone knew it would end up in court if/when the league tried to enforce their rules on them. Certainly, NIL collectives were already offering pay for play, unofficially, but should the final ruling uphold the injunction, it's another "emperor has no clothes" moment for the NCAA.

 

[Mr Janny]

i thought the NCAA was exempt from antitrust laws. And that’s what congress always threatened to remove when schools got left out of power conferences.

No. They aren't. They're asking Congress for an exemption, but it's a long shot at this point.

 

[Lineup]

good bye college sports

 

[NorthCyd]

good bye college sports

Aren't you guys tired of saying this after every court ruling over the last couple of years?

 

[Mr Janny]

good bye college sports

Nah. Goodbye NCAA, maybe. But they're still going to be playing college sports for a long time.

 

[Clonehomer]

good bye college sports

Pretty much. Only way I see it being saved is with unionization and collective bargaining. It’s going to be free agency all the time. Don’t even need to wait to the offseason. If your team isn’t going to make the tournament, transfer to one that will in January. The NCAA can’t stop you from playing, that’d be anti-competitive.

 

[alarson]

Aren't you guys tired of saying this after every court ruling over the last couple of years?

It'll stop being said when it stops being true. And the more decisions like this we see, the more gas gets put on it.

The destruction doesn't happen in a day. There's a lot of inertia involved. But its clear what the end effect of this will be and things are already visibly moving in that direction.

Anyone saying otherwise is just living in denial. Of course, that's nothing new. A lot of us warned about the effects of NIL and we were assured we were just overreacting, even though all those predictions came true.

 

[NorthCyd]

But its clear what the end effect of this will be and things are already visibly moving in that direction.

Please, enlighten me Mr. "dumb button". What are these disastrous consequences? None of them have manifested themselves yet despite assurances they will for years now. I figured you would have given up on college sports now since it's destruction is so certain. Why are you wasting your time?

 

[MeowingCows]

It's not going to be very fun trying to run a legitimate sports league that doesn't have any kind of oversight. States might as well sue over eligibility requirements, rule changes or blown calls, entire outcomes of games. The NCAA has no ability remaining to be any form of legislative body for their own sports. They've lost every time it's questioned.

 

[CyCrazy]

It'll stop being said when it stops being true. And the more decisions like this we see, the more gas gets put on it.

The destruction doesn't happen in a day. There's a lot of inertia involved. But its clear what the end effect of this will be and things are already visibly moving in that direction.

Anyone saying otherwise is just living in denial. Of course, that's nothing new. A lot of us warned about the effects of NIL and we were assured we were just overreacting, even though all those predictions came true.

Another semi warm take from dumb button guy.

 

[FriendlySpartan]

Please, enlighten me Mr. "dumb button". What are these disastrous consequences? None of them have manifested themselves yet despite assurances they will for years now. I figured you would have given up on college sports now since it's destruction is so certain. Why are you wasting your time?

Dude don’t you remember when hunter left for NIL and it meant the end of ISU basketball because they couldn’t compete in the NIL era? I mean that’s the reason you guys suck this year and will never get into the tourney again.

Oh wait your team is amazing, is gonna get a top seed and have a real final four shot. My bad I got confused when I thought NIL was the end of college sports.

 

[CyCrazy]

Dude don’t you remember when hunter left for NIL and it meant the end of ISU basketball because they couldn’t compete in the NIL era? I mean that’s the reason you guys suck this year and will never get into the tourney again.

Oh wait your team is amazing, is gonna get a top seed and have a real final four shot. My bad I got confused when I thought NIL was the end of college sports.

People shaking their fists are the ones worried about college sports. They will go on with or without the NCAA.

 

[alarson]

Another semi warm take from dumb button guy.

Oh look, its you back to cry about a reaction button again.

 

[alarson]

Dude don’t you remember when hunter left for NIL and it meant the end of ISU basketball because they couldn’t compete in the NIL era? I mean that’s the reason you guys suck this year and will never get into the tourney again.

Oh wait your team is amazing, is gonna get a top seed and have a real final four shot. My bad I got confused when I thought NIL was the end of college sports.

This take is like someone looking at a team getting a 3 star that overperforms and going 'see, stars don't mean anything'.

 

[CyCrazy]

Oh look, its you back to cry about a reaction button again.

Lol, the dumb button is all you got. You are the one crying about it or you wouldnt bring it up.

 

[alarson]

Lol, the dumb button is all you got. You are the one crying about it or you wouldnt bring it up.

I wasn't the one who brought it up