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Ten Truths About The Big 12

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...from Hunter Ansley of Fox Sports Southwest.

Some that are interesting:

Texas Tech will beat Texas on September 18 (and Tommy Tubberville will break out his "victory cigar").
Cody Hawkins will end up starting at Colorado (if he is correct on this one, it certainly is great news for all of the Buffaloes 2010 opponents).
Mike Gundy will end up getting fired at Oklahoma State.
Kansas State will be back in a bowl game (heaven help us all).

Here's the link:

Ten Truths about the Big 12
 
I saw the thread title, the person who posted it, and was expecting a huge big 12 bashing party....

i'm so confused, wingback; you're slipping
 
The_Architect said:
Why the hell would OSU fire Gundy?
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That program majorly under acheived the last few years with Zac Robinson, Dez Bryant and company and now an uncertain rebuilding begings with Okie St returning only 12 starters (4 on defense) in 2010.

For all of the money that Boone Pickens has put into the program, they have nothing to show for it. Because of the rebuilding and a new OC coming in, Gundy may not be fired this year, but depending on how this season goes, his seat in 2011 could be just as hot as the seat Hawkins is on this year.
 
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yaman3 said:
If Mike Gundy gets fired I will eat my hat.
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After their rather pathetic showing in the Cotton Bowl last year and the meltdown they had in the Holiday Bowl the year before, with the fact that they are going to struggle this year (IMO), it would not surprise me at all...
 
garn91 said:
That program majorly under acheived the last few years with Zac Robinson, Dez Bryant and company and now an uncertain rebuilding begings with Okie St returns only 12 starters in 2010.

For all of the money that Boone Pickens has put into the program, they have nothing to show for it.
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Please. It's not like they were once a powerhouse. They didn't have Bryant last year. It's not like Nebraska where you still have a building point. They still fight us for recruits more than they fight the OUs and UTs of the world. If they fire Gundy, good luck. He will end up somewhere with a much greater starting point than what he had before and he will be successful.
 
garn91 said:
That program majorly under acheived the last few years with Zac Robinson, Dez Bryant and company and now an uncertain rebuilding begings with Okie St returns only 12 starters in 2010.

For all of the money that Boone Pickens has put into the program, they have nothing to show for it. Because of the rebuilding and a new OC coming in, Gundy may not be fired this year, but depending on how this season goes, his seat in 2011 could be just as hot as the seat Hawkins is on this year.
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I hear ya but they're freaking Oklahoma State. One of 2-3 teams (until recently) that we'd always be able to pound in Ames. They've never been a powerhouse and will never be more than a 7-9 win team with an occasional 10 win season sprinkled in. That's pretty good for them.
 
yaman3 said:
Please. It's not like they were once a powerhouse. They didn't have Bryant last year. It's not like Nebraska where you still have a building point. They still fight us for recruits more than they fight the OUs and UTs of the world. If they fire Gundy, good luck. He will end up somewhere with a much greater starting point than what he had before and he will be successful.
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I don't disagree with anything you said. But what T. Boone Pickens wants, he will get, and it would not surprise me at all if he demands competition at the level of OU and Texas each year with the money he has dumped into that program.
 
Wingback said:
...from Hunter Ansley of Fox Sports Southwest.

Some that are interesting:

Texas Tech will beat Texas on September 18 (and Tommy Tubberville will break out his "victory cigar").
Cody Hawkins will end up starting at Colorado (if he is correct on this one, it certainly is great news for all of the Buffaloes 2010 opponents).
Mike Gundy will end up getting fired at Oklahoma State.
Kansas State will be back in a bowl game (heaven help us all).

Here's the link:

Ten Truths about the Big 12
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10. However, Nebraska will skate through the North division
And they’ll steal one of the spots as they wave goodbye to the Big 12 from behind the championship trophy after beating OU in the Big 12 title game. Bo Pelini’s defense will miss Ndamukong Suh, but the Cornhuskers will take a major step forward offensively and still smother opponents with more of a team effort.

What in the world would lead him to believe that Nebby's offense will take a major step forward? Just curious.
 
I guess I don't understand all of the Tommy Tuberville love. Seriously his Auburn teams got worse every year. Tech won because they had a freaky offense everyone had to get ready for.
 
Knownothing said:
I guess I don't understand all of the Tommy Tuberville love. Seriously his Auburn teams got worse every year. Tech won because they had a freaky offense everyone had to get ready for.
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Tuberville's problem late at in his tenure at Auburn was that he kept messing around with the offense.

Under Tuberville, The Tech offense isn't going to change much, if at all (spread OC coming in from Troy (name escapes me) and former Tech QB Kliff Kingsbury as co-OC and QB's coach who knows Leach's system), that's why with Tuberville's defensive background, they are a very underrated team and could be sneaky good in 2010.

Edit: Turns out another former Tech QB, Sonny Cumbie is on Tubberville's offensive staff as well.
 
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garn91 said:
Tuberville's problem late at in his tenure at Auburn was that he kept messing around with the offense.

Under Tuberville, The Tech offense isn't going to change much, if at all (spread OC coming in from Troy (name escapes me) and former Tech QB Kliff Kingsbury as co-OC and QB's coach who knows Leach's system), that's why with Tuberville's defensive background, they are a very underrated team and could be sneaky good in 2010.
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Exactly. They are returning a ton of starters as well.
 
flynnhicks03 said:
10. However, Nebraska will skate through the North division
And they’ll steal one of the spots as they wave goodbye to the Big 12 from behind the championship trophy after beating OU in the Big 12 title game. Bo Pelini’s defense will miss Ndamukong Suh, but the Cornhuskers will take a major step forward offensively and still smother opponents with more of a team effort.

What in the world would lead him to believe that Nebby's offense will take a major step forward? Just curious.
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What in the world would lead you to believe that Nebby's offense will be as bad as they were last year? Just curious.

At this point in the year - who knows what will happen. Two years ago Nub, er, Nebraska had a top 20 offense. Then about 95th or worse.
 
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huKSer said:
What in the world would lead you to believe that Nebby's offense will be as bad as they were last year? Just curious.

At this point in the year - who knows what will happen. Two years ago Nub, er, Nebraska had a top 20 offense. Then about 95th or worse.
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That they return the same ineffective players? Seems pretty logical to me. It's not like there's a bunch of new faces coming in.
 
chuckd4735 said:
I don't disagree with anything you said. But what T. Boone Pickens wants, he will get, and it would not surprise me at all if he demands competition at the level of OU and Texas each year with the money he has dumped into that program.
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Oklahoma State is a money pit. :biglaugh::biglaugh::biglaugh::biglaugh::biglaugh:
 
huKSer said:
What in the world would lead you to believe that Nebby's offense will be as bad as they were last year? Just curious.

At this point in the year - who knows what will happen. Two years ago Nub, er, Nebraska had a top 20 offense. Then about 95th or worse.
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They have the same qb. End thread.
 
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