If only Barnett had the upside that comes with being an unproven high-schooler. Remembering Barnett is still currently a true freshman (and missed a lot of time in the fall), I thought his performance was very encouraging for the future. Clearly things to work on, but I am surprised by how many people are writing off a guy that has been on campus for less than a year.
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If only Barnett had the upside that comes with being an unproven high-schooler. Remembering Barnett is still currently a true freshman (and missed a lot of time in the fall), I thought his performance was very encouraging for the future. Clearly things to work on, but I am surprised by how many people are writing off a guy that has been on campus for less than a year.
Those saying Tiller is the #1 and its "his to lose" are simply being cheerleaders. Looking at things in terms of probability...I'd estimate there is about a 70% chance that Steel Jantz is the starting QB on September 3rd. His shortcomings at the scrimmage were related directly to his newness in the system...and he has all summer and fall practice to get that corrected. In terms of running with the ball, throwing accuracy and a "team first" attitude...its pretty darn clear Jantz is gonna be the guy this fall.
SJ is going to have to play much better to get the nod. Bad decision making does not make coaches happy.
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SJ or JB? Not that I disagree with what the coaches want, but they all made enough mistakes that I did not see a discernible difference in that metric.
Good. Pretty much as expected. I think he'll see the rock 15-20 times per game. With Woody getting another 8-10, and White/Hollis getting 8-10. White looked like very good as well.
I think we'll see a lot of sets where one of the RBs will be in the backfiled w/Tiller/Jantz, and another one will be in the slot.
Did anyone see Tom Farnoik's little brother? 6'2" and 210 pounds......7th grader. I could say he has the most upside but until he can prove that he can handle the rigor of college life, intense off-season workouts, and Big 12 football he should not be mentioned as having the "most upside". That goes for Sam Richardson also. We have already seen what boosting a QB can prove by what Steele has shown spring. He has proven to be average, thus far. And the
mistakes he made were not system issues, those were fundamental things that pee wee footballers are taught (like protect the football)!
Sam Richardson may be the second coming of Steele(ISU's savior) but until he can prove he can handle the rigor, don't give me the crap at he has the most upside! Have a wonderful day CF.
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It's not blasphemy, for crying out loud it was/is stated on this site everyday by people that wanted to blame the offensive woes squarely on AA. I think people will realize, just how valuable AA was a little later this year.
The coaches "stats' will include "should have been INT's." When they review the film, they will consider those as well as passes that were dropped. Herman has said before that they don't breakdown the QB's based on stats. Sometimes the QB does exactly what he should but the play breaks down.
But Jantz has been in the system the shortest amount of time and has only been a QB for a year. So while he may be more physically mature, he still has a pretty high ceiling in skill, learning the system, and football knowledge. They both have a high ceiling.
Jantz does have a higher ceiling in my opinion for a couple of reasons. He has only started at QB for one year. And, he has the least familiarity with this offense. With more reps, and time to study the playbook, he will get more comfortable in the pocket.
The passing game last year was inept most of the time. Other than Franklin, no one was a sure catcher.
Is it just me or does Duck Hollis look much bigger than his 203 lb profile suggests?
It appeared Hollis wasn't very elusive or shifty, but I felt he will compliment Woody quite well as another bruising runner.
On KXNO, Rhoads talked about wanting to play other programs in the spring. Seems the NCAA is against it, but there's definitely some value in getting the Jackrabbits or Bison in here for a full on scrimmage.
The only major downside I can see though, is it brings LakesBison out of hiding and back to Cy-Fanatic.
It appeared Hollis wasn't very elusive or shifty, but I felt he will compliment Woody quite well as another bruising runner.
On KXNO, Rhoads talked about wanting to play other programs in the spring. Seems the NCAA is against it, but there's definitely some value in getting the Jackrabbits or Bison in here for a full on scrimmage.
The only major downside I can see though, is it brings LakesBison out of hiding and back to Cy-Fanatic.
Please excuse this question, I know I'm treading over very dangerous waters here. However, I need to know the answer because I'm fairly new to CF and to the Cyclone family in general and right now I just don't understand.
Seneca Wallace had a .500 Record at ISU and threw 1 more INT that TDs (27 to 26) in his career. He had a 57% completion rate (below average for college). He accounted for 6,000 yds in 2 seasons (decent).
Why is this guy a god? Why are all other ISU QBs compared to him?
This is asked with the purest of intentions, I simply am wondering if I missed something. I don't want to be ignorant.
Seneca Wallace had a .500 Record at ISU and threw 1 more INT that TDs (27 to 26) in his career. He had a 57% completion rate (below average for college). He accounted for 6,000 yds in 2 seasons (decent).
Why is this guy a god? Why are all other ISU QBs compared to him?
This is asked with the purest of intentions, I simply am wondering if I missed something. I don't want to be ignorant.
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Re-read through this thread with a copy of these cognitive biases, and see how many you can find...
Anchoring – the common human tendency to rely too heavily, or "anchor," on one trait or piece of information when making decisions.
Bias blind spot – the tendency to see oneself as less biased than other people.
Choice-supportive bias – the tendency to remember one's choices as better than they actually were.
Confirmation bias – the tendency to search for or interpret information in a way that confirms one's preconceptions.
Experimenter's or Expectation bias – the tendency for experimenters to believe, certify, and publish data that agree with their expectations for the outcome of an experiment, and to disbelieve, discard, or downgrade the corresponding weightings for data that appear to conflict with those expectations.
Mere exposure effect – the tendency to express undue liking for things merely because of familiarity with them.
Outcome bias – the tendency to judge a decision by its eventual outcome instead of based on the quality of the decision at the time it was made.
Availability heuristic – estimating what is more likely by what is more available in memory, which is biased toward vivid, unusual, or emotionally charged examples.
Availability cascade – a self-reinforcing process in which a collective belief gains more and more plausibility through its increasing repetition in public discourse (or "repeat something long enough and it will become true").
Base rate neglect or Base rate fallacy – the tendency to base judgments on specifics, ignoring general statistical information.
Gambler's fallacy – the tendency to think that future probabilities are altered by past events, when in reality they are unchanged. Results from an erroneous conceptualization of the Law of large numbers. For example, "I've flipped heads with this coin five times consecutively, so the chance of tails coming out on the sixth flip is much greater than heads."
Hindsight bias – sometimes called the "I-knew-it-all-along" effect, the tendency to see past events as being predictable[30] at the time those events happened.
Illusory correlation – inaccurately perceiving a relationship between two events, either because of prejudice or selective processing of information
False consensus effect – the tendency for people to overestimate the degree to which others agree with them.
Illusion of asymmetric insight – people perceive their knowledge of their peers to surpass their peers' knowledge of them.
Hindsight bias – filtering memory of past events through present knowledge, so that those events look more predictable than they actually were; also known as the "I-knew-it-all-along effect."
Extra Credit: Pick 5 random threads on CF and see how many references you can find to the congitive biases below.
Hostile media effect - the tendency to see a media report as being biased due to one's own strong partisan views.
Pessimism bias – the tendency for some people, especially those suffering from depression, to overestimate the likelihood of negative things happening to them.
Anchoring – the common human tendency to rely too heavily, or "anchor," on one trait or piece of information when making decisions.
Bias blind spot – the tendency to see oneself as less biased than other people.
Choice-supportive bias – the tendency to remember one's choices as better than they actually were.
Confirmation bias – the tendency to search for or interpret information in a way that confirms one's preconceptions.
Experimenter's or Expectation bias – the tendency for experimenters to believe, certify, and publish data that agree with their expectations for the outcome of an experiment, and to disbelieve, discard, or downgrade the corresponding weightings for data that appear to conflict with those expectations.
Mere exposure effect – the tendency to express undue liking for things merely because of familiarity with them.
Outcome bias – the tendency to judge a decision by its eventual outcome instead of based on the quality of the decision at the time it was made.
Availability heuristic – estimating what is more likely by what is more available in memory, which is biased toward vivid, unusual, or emotionally charged examples.
Availability cascade – a self-reinforcing process in which a collective belief gains more and more plausibility through its increasing repetition in public discourse (or "repeat something long enough and it will become true").
Base rate neglect or Base rate fallacy – the tendency to base judgments on specifics, ignoring general statistical information.
Gambler's fallacy – the tendency to think that future probabilities are altered by past events, when in reality they are unchanged. Results from an erroneous conceptualization of the Law of large numbers. For example, "I've flipped heads with this coin five times consecutively, so the chance of tails coming out on the sixth flip is much greater than heads."
Hindsight bias – sometimes called the "I-knew-it-all-along" effect, the tendency to see past events as being predictable[30] at the time those events happened.
Illusory correlation – inaccurately perceiving a relationship between two events, either because of prejudice or selective processing of information
False consensus effect – the tendency for people to overestimate the degree to which others agree with them.
Illusion of asymmetric insight – people perceive their knowledge of their peers to surpass their peers' knowledge of them.
Hindsight bias – filtering memory of past events through present knowledge, so that those events look more predictable than they actually were; also known as the "I-knew-it-all-along effect."
Extra Credit: Pick 5 random threads on CF and see how many references you can find to the congitive biases below.
Hostile media effect - the tendency to see a media report as being biased due to one's own strong partisan views.
Pessimism bias – the tendency for some people, especially those suffering from depression, to overestimate the likelihood of negative things happening to them.
I believe Jantz' ceiling will max out in 2 years....1 or less if he can't overtake Tiller or prove after fall camp that his snaps are more beneficial that Barnett's. Even if Barnett plays behind Tiller for 2 seasons, he will still have 2 to play, Jantz will be done. Also, in terms of physical development, learning the system, and football knowledge, Barnett has more room and time. As a RSJr, Tiller and Jantz has to be there now. IMO, that's a higher ceiling for Barnett.