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No more damn excuses. The dead wood is cut and now is the time to expect results. 2014 -- what is defined as a success? I am looking at 5-7. What say you?
 
New OC, and tons of injuries next year. Won't be his fault.
 
No excuse for not making a bowl game. A new successful implemented offense may start out slow, but it should still be better than the crap we had this year.
 
CPR has been held responsible. That's why he took the blame for the offense and that's why he made two coaching changes today.
 
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mark said:
No more damn excuses. The dead wood is cut and now is the time to expect results. 2014 -- what is defined as a success? I am looking at 5-7. What say you?
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I am looking forward to oc hire. Will answer after that.
 
mark said:
No more damn excuses. The dead wood is cut and now is the time to expect results. 2014 -- what is defined as a success? I am looking at 5-7. What say you?
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This is such crap. He was held responsible for this year. But one bad year does not erase several good years.
 
Depends on how different the new offense is from what the players currently know. If radically different, or needing different players to work, we could find ourselves at about the same place we were this year in terms of wins.
 
I think you need the schedule to make predictions.

[TABLE="class: ScheduleTable, width: 100%"]
[TR]
[TD="class: odd, bgcolor: #EEEEEE"] Sat, Aug 30[/TD]
[TD="class: odd, bgcolor: #EEEEEE"] North Dakota State[/TD]
[TD="class: odd, bgcolor: #EEEEEE"]Ames, Iowa[/TD]
[TD="class: odd time, bgcolor: #EEEEEE"] TBA[/TD]
[TD="class: odd, bgcolor: #EEEEEE"][/TD]
[TD="class: odd, bgcolor: #EEEEEE"] [/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: even, bgcolor: #DDDDDD"] Sat, Sep 13[/TD]
[TD="class: even, bgcolor: #DDDDDD"] Iowa[/TD]
[TD="class: even, bgcolor: #DDDDDD"]Iowa City, Iowa[/TD]
[TD="class: even time, bgcolor: #DDDDDD"] TBA[/TD]
[TD="class: even, bgcolor: #DDDDDD"][/TD]
[TD="class: even, bgcolor: #DDDDDD"] [/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: odd, bgcolor: #EEEEEE"] Sat, Sep 20[/TD]
[TD="class: odd, bgcolor: #EEEEEE"] Toledo (Family Weekend)[/TD]
[TD="class: odd, bgcolor: #EEEEEE"]Ames, Iowa[/TD]
[TD="class: odd time, bgcolor: #EEEEEE"] TBA[/TD]
[TD="class: odd, bgcolor: #EEEEEE"][/TD]
[TD="class: odd, bgcolor: #EEEEEE"] [/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: even, bgcolor: #DDDDDD"] Sat, Sep 27[/TD]
[TD="class: even, bgcolor: #DDDDDD"] Baylor *[/TD]
[TD="class: even, bgcolor: #DDDDDD"]Ames, Iowa[/TD]
[TD="class: even time, bgcolor: #DDDDDD"] TBA[/TD]
[TD="class: even, bgcolor: #DDDDDD"][/TD]
[TD="class: even, bgcolor: #DDDDDD"] [/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: odd, bgcolor: #EEEEEE"] Sat, Oct 04[/TD]
[TD="class: odd, bgcolor: #EEEEEE"] Oklahoma State *[/TD]
[TD="class: odd, bgcolor: #EEEEEE"]Stillwater, Okla.[/TD]
[TD="class: odd time, bgcolor: #EEEEEE"] TBA[/TD]
[TD="class: odd, bgcolor: #EEEEEE"][/TD]
[TD="class: odd, bgcolor: #EEEEEE"] [/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: even, bgcolor: #DDDDDD"] Sat, Oct 11[/TD]
[TD="class: even, bgcolor: #DDDDDD"] Kansas State (Homecoming) *[/TD]
[TD="class: even, bgcolor: #DDDDDD"]Ames, Iowa[/TD]
[TD="class: even time, bgcolor: #DDDDDD"] TBA[/TD]
[TD="class: even, bgcolor: #DDDDDD"][/TD]
[TD="class: even, bgcolor: #DDDDDD"] [/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: odd, bgcolor: #EEEEEE"] Sat, Oct 18[/TD]
[TD="class: odd, bgcolor: #EEEEEE"] Texas *[/TD]
[TD="class: odd, bgcolor: #EEEEEE"]Austin, Texas[/TD]
[TD="class: odd time, bgcolor: #EEEEEE"] TBA[/TD]
[TD="class: odd, bgcolor: #EEEEEE"][/TD]
[TD="class: odd, bgcolor: #EEEEEE"] [/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: even, bgcolor: #DDDDDD"] Thu, Oct 30[/TD]
[TD="class: even, bgcolor: #DDDDDD"] Oklahoma (or Nov. 1) *[/TD]
[TD="class: even, bgcolor: #DDDDDD"]Ames, Iowa[/TD]
[TD="class: even time, bgcolor: #DDDDDD"] TBA[/TD]
[TD="class: even, bgcolor: #DDDDDD"][/TD]
[TD="class: even, bgcolor: #DDDDDD"] [/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: odd, bgcolor: #EEEEEE"] Sat, Nov 01[/TD]
[TD="class: odd, bgcolor: #EEEEEE"] Oklahoma (or Oct. 30) *[/TD]
[TD="class: odd, bgcolor: #EEEEEE"]Ames, Iowa[/TD]
[TD="class: odd time, bgcolor: #EEEEEE"] TBA[/TD]
[TD="class: odd, bgcolor: #EEEEEE"][/TD]
[TD="class: odd, bgcolor: #EEEEEE"] [/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: even, bgcolor: #DDDDDD"] Sat, Nov 08[/TD]
[TD="class: even, bgcolor: #DDDDDD"] Kansas *[/TD]
[TD="class: even, bgcolor: #DDDDDD"]Lawrence, Kan.[/TD]
[TD="class: even time, bgcolor: #DDDDDD"] TBA[/TD]
[TD="class: even, bgcolor: #DDDDDD"][/TD]
[TD="class: even, bgcolor: #DDDDDD"] [/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: odd, bgcolor: #EEEEEE"] Sat, Nov 22[/TD]
[TD="class: odd, bgcolor: #EEEEEE"] Texas Tech *[/TD]
[TD="class: odd, bgcolor: #EEEEEE"]Ames, Iowa[/TD]
[TD="class: odd time, bgcolor: #EEEEEE"] TBA[/TD]
[TD="class: odd, bgcolor: #EEEEEE"][/TD]
[TD="class: odd, bgcolor: #EEEEEE"] [/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: even, bgcolor: #DDDDDD"] Sat, Nov 29[/TD]
[TD="class: even, bgcolor: #DDDDDD"] West Virginia *[/TD]
[TD="class: even, bgcolor: #DDDDDD"]Ames, Iowa[/TD]
[TD="class: even time, bgcolor: #DDDDDD"] TBA[/TD]
[TD="class: even, bgcolor: #DDDDDD"][/TD]
[TD="class: even, bgcolor: #DDDDDD"] [/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: odd, bgcolor: #EEEEEE"] Sat, Dec 06[/TD]
[TD="class: odd, bgcolor: #EEEEEE"] TCU *[/TD]
[TD="class: odd, bgcolor: #EEEEEE"]Ft. Worth, Texas[/TD]
[TD="class: odd time, bgcolor: #EEEEEE"] TBA[/TD]
[TD="class: odd, bgcolor: #EEEEEE"][/TD]
[TD="class: odd, bgcolor: #EEEEEE"] [/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]
 
Die4Cy said:
Depends on how different the new offense is from what the players currently know. If radically different, or needing different players to work, we could find ourselves at about the same place we were this year in terms of wins.
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It doesn't matter what the "new" offense is, a good OC will put the players he has in a position to succeed, and then recruit to whatever scheme he wants to run
 
Farnsworth said:
I think you need the schedule to make predictions.

[TABLE="class: ScheduleTable, width: 100%"]
[TR]
[TD="class: odd, bgcolor: #EEEEEE"] Sat, Aug 30[/TD]
[TD="class: odd, bgcolor: #EEEEEE"] North Dakota State[/TD]
[TD="class: odd, bgcolor: #EEEEEE"]Ames, Iowa[/TD]
[TD="class: odd time, bgcolor: #EEEEEE"] TBA[/TD]
[TD="class: odd, bgcolor: #EEEEEE"][/TD]
[TD="class: odd, bgcolor: #EEEEEE"][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: even, bgcolor: #DDDDDD"] Sat, Sep 13[/TD]
[TD="class: even, bgcolor: #DDDDDD"] Iowa[/TD]
[TD="class: even, bgcolor: #DDDDDD"]Iowa City, Iowa[/TD]
[TD="class: even time, bgcolor: #DDDDDD"] TBA[/TD]
[TD="class: even, bgcolor: #DDDDDD"][/TD]
[TD="class: even, bgcolor: #DDDDDD"][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: odd, bgcolor: #EEEEEE"] Sat, Sep 20[/TD]
[TD="class: odd, bgcolor: #EEEEEE"] Toledo (Family Weekend)[/TD]
[TD="class: odd, bgcolor: #EEEEEE"]Ames, Iowa[/TD]
[TD="class: odd time, bgcolor: #EEEEEE"] TBA[/TD]
[TD="class: odd, bgcolor: #EEEEEE"][/TD]
[TD="class: odd, bgcolor: #EEEEEE"][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: even, bgcolor: #DDDDDD"] Sat, Sep 27[/TD]
[TD="class: even, bgcolor: #DDDDDD"] Baylor *[/TD]
[TD="class: even, bgcolor: #DDDDDD"]Ames, Iowa[/TD]
[TD="class: even time, bgcolor: #DDDDDD"] TBA[/TD]
[TD="class: even, bgcolor: #DDDDDD"][/TD]
[TD="class: even, bgcolor: #DDDDDD"][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: odd, bgcolor: #EEEEEE"] Sat, Oct 04[/TD]
[TD="class: odd, bgcolor: #EEEEEE"] Oklahoma State *[/TD]
[TD="class: odd, bgcolor: #EEEEEE"]Stillwater, Okla.[/TD]
[TD="class: odd time, bgcolor: #EEEEEE"] TBA[/TD]
[TD="class: odd, bgcolor: #EEEEEE"][/TD]
[TD="class: odd, bgcolor: #EEEEEE"][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: even, bgcolor: #DDDDDD"] Sat, Oct 11[/TD]
[TD="class: even, bgcolor: #DDDDDD"] Kansas State (Homecoming) *[/TD]
[TD="class: even, bgcolor: #DDDDDD"]Ames, Iowa[/TD]
[TD="class: even time, bgcolor: #DDDDDD"] TBA[/TD]
[TD="class: even, bgcolor: #DDDDDD"][/TD]
[TD="class: even, bgcolor: #DDDDDD"][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: odd, bgcolor: #EEEEEE"] Sat, Oct 18[/TD]
[TD="class: odd, bgcolor: #EEEEEE"] Texas *[/TD]
[TD="class: odd, bgcolor: #EEEEEE"]Austin, Texas[/TD]
[TD="class: odd time, bgcolor: #EEEEEE"] TBA[/TD]
[TD="class: odd, bgcolor: #EEEEEE"][/TD]
[TD="class: odd, bgcolor: #EEEEEE"][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: even, bgcolor: #DDDDDD"] Thu, Oct 30[/TD]
[TD="class: even, bgcolor: #DDDDDD"] Oklahoma (or Nov. 1) *[/TD]
[TD="class: even, bgcolor: #DDDDDD"]Ames, Iowa[/TD]
[TD="class: even time, bgcolor: #DDDDDD"] TBA[/TD]
[TD="class: even, bgcolor: #DDDDDD"][/TD]
[TD="class: even, bgcolor: #DDDDDD"][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: odd, bgcolor: #EEEEEE"] Sat, Nov 01[/TD]
[TD="class: odd, bgcolor: #EEEEEE"] Oklahoma (or Oct. 30) *[/TD]
[TD="class: odd, bgcolor: #EEEEEE"]Ames, Iowa[/TD]
[TD="class: odd time, bgcolor: #EEEEEE"] TBA[/TD]
[TD="class: odd, bgcolor: #EEEEEE"][/TD]
[TD="class: odd, bgcolor: #EEEEEE"][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: even, bgcolor: #DDDDDD"] Sat, Nov 08[/TD]
[TD="class: even, bgcolor: #DDDDDD"] Kansas *[/TD]
[TD="class: even, bgcolor: #DDDDDD"]Lawrence, Kan.[/TD]
[TD="class: even time, bgcolor: #DDDDDD"] TBA[/TD]
[TD="class: even, bgcolor: #DDDDDD"][/TD]
[TD="class: even, bgcolor: #DDDDDD"][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: odd, bgcolor: #EEEEEE"] Sat, Nov 22[/TD]
[TD="class: odd, bgcolor: #EEEEEE"] Texas Tech *[/TD]
[TD="class: odd, bgcolor: #EEEEEE"]Ames, Iowa[/TD]
[TD="class: odd time, bgcolor: #EEEEEE"] TBA[/TD]
[TD="class: odd, bgcolor: #EEEEEE"][/TD]
[TD="class: odd, bgcolor: #EEEEEE"][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: even, bgcolor: #DDDDDD"] Sat, Nov 29[/TD]
[TD="class: even, bgcolor: #DDDDDD"] West Virginia *[/TD]
[TD="class: even, bgcolor: #DDDDDD"]Ames, Iowa[/TD]
[TD="class: even time, bgcolor: #DDDDDD"] TBA[/TD]
[TD="class: even, bgcolor: #DDDDDD"][/TD]
[TD="class: even, bgcolor: #DDDDDD"][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: odd, bgcolor: #EEEEEE"] Sat, Dec 06[/TD]
[TD="class: odd, bgcolor: #EEEEEE"] TCU *[/TD]
[TD="class: odd, bgcolor: #EEEEEE"]Ft. Worth, Texas[/TD]
[TD="class: odd time, bgcolor: #EEEEEE"] TBA[/TD]
[TD="class: odd, bgcolor: #EEEEEE"][/TD]
[TD="class: odd, bgcolor: #EEEEEE"][/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]
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I don't like the way the schedule is set up for next year. Could start 2-6. Need to get 3 wins in those first 8 games some how.
 
Die4Cy said:
Depends on how different the new offense is from what the players currently know. If radically different, or needing different players to work, we could find ourselves at about the same place we were this year in terms of wins.
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It would be stupid of Rhoads to not hire an OC who will implement an offense the current personnel could run.
 
Die4Cy said:
Depends on how different the new offense is from what the players currently know. If radically different, or needing different players to work, we could find ourselves at about the same place we were this year in terms of wins.
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I know what you are saying, but I always wondered about the validity of the argument. Players are players, right? It's not like we are small on the offensive line, or small in the WR corps any more. We have a good mix of speed guys, taller physical types, smaller quick RB's and with Standard being a bruiser type.

I think way to much emphasis is put on "he needs the right type of players to run his system" than is warranted. With the lone exception being the QB.
 
Farnsworth said:
I think you need the schedule to make predictions.

[TABLE="class: ScheduleTable, width: 100%"]
[TR]
[TD="class: odd, bgcolor: #EEEEEE"] Sat, Aug 30[/TD]
[TD="class: odd, bgcolor: #EEEEEE"] North Dakota State[/TD]
[TD="class: odd, bgcolor: #EEEEEE"]Ames, Iowa[/TD]
[TD="class: odd time, bgcolor: #EEEEEE"] TBA[/TD]
[TD="class: odd, bgcolor: #EEEEEE"][/TD]
[TD="class: odd, bgcolor: #EEEEEE"][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: even, bgcolor: #DDDDDD"] Sat, Sep 13[/TD]
[TD="class: even, bgcolor: #DDDDDD"] Iowa[/TD]
[TD="class: even, bgcolor: #DDDDDD"]Iowa City, Iowa[/TD]
[TD="class: even time, bgcolor: #DDDDDD"] TBA[/TD]
[TD="class: even, bgcolor: #DDDDDD"][/TD]
[TD="class: even, bgcolor: #DDDDDD"][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: odd, bgcolor: #EEEEEE"] Sat, Sep 20[/TD]
[TD="class: odd, bgcolor: #EEEEEE"] Toledo (Family Weekend)[/TD]
[TD="class: odd, bgcolor: #EEEEEE"]Ames, Iowa[/TD]
[TD="class: odd time, bgcolor: #EEEEEE"] TBA[/TD]
[TD="class: odd, bgcolor: #EEEEEE"][/TD]
[TD="class: odd, bgcolor: #EEEEEE"][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: even, bgcolor: #DDDDDD"] Sat, Sep 27[/TD]
[TD="class: even, bgcolor: #DDDDDD"] Baylor *[/TD]
[TD="class: even, bgcolor: #DDDDDD"]Ames, Iowa[/TD]
[TD="class: even time, bgcolor: #DDDDDD"] TBA[/TD]
[TD="class: even, bgcolor: #DDDDDD"][/TD]
[TD="class: even, bgcolor: #DDDDDD"][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: odd, bgcolor: #EEEEEE"] Sat, Oct 04[/TD]
[TD="class: odd, bgcolor: #EEEEEE"] Oklahoma State *[/TD]
[TD="class: odd, bgcolor: #EEEEEE"]Stillwater, Okla.[/TD]
[TD="class: odd time, bgcolor: #EEEEEE"] TBA[/TD]
[TD="class: odd, bgcolor: #EEEEEE"][/TD]
[TD="class: odd, bgcolor: #EEEEEE"][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: even, bgcolor: #DDDDDD"] Sat, Oct 11[/TD]
[TD="class: even, bgcolor: #DDDDDD"] Kansas State (Homecoming) *[/TD]
[TD="class: even, bgcolor: #DDDDDD"]Ames, Iowa[/TD]
[TD="class: even time, bgcolor: #DDDDDD"] TBA[/TD]
[TD="class: even, bgcolor: #DDDDDD"][/TD]
[TD="class: even, bgcolor: #DDDDDD"][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: odd, bgcolor: #EEEEEE"] Sat, Oct 18[/TD]
[TD="class: odd, bgcolor: #EEEEEE"] Texas *[/TD]
[TD="class: odd, bgcolor: #EEEEEE"]Austin, Texas[/TD]
[TD="class: odd time, bgcolor: #EEEEEE"] TBA[/TD]
[TD="class: odd, bgcolor: #EEEEEE"][/TD]
[TD="class: odd, bgcolor: #EEEEEE"][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: even, bgcolor: #DDDDDD"] Thu, Oct 30[/TD]
[TD="class: even, bgcolor: #DDDDDD"] Oklahoma (or Nov. 1) *[/TD]
[TD="class: even, bgcolor: #DDDDDD"]Ames, Iowa[/TD]
[TD="class: even time, bgcolor: #DDDDDD"] TBA[/TD]
[TD="class: even, bgcolor: #DDDDDD"][/TD]
[TD="class: even, bgcolor: #DDDDDD"][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: odd, bgcolor: #EEEEEE"] Sat, Nov 01[/TD]
[TD="class: odd, bgcolor: #EEEEEE"] Oklahoma (or Oct. 30) *[/TD]
[TD="class: odd, bgcolor: #EEEEEE"]Ames, Iowa[/TD]
[TD="class: odd time, bgcolor: #EEEEEE"] TBA[/TD]
[TD="class: odd, bgcolor: #EEEEEE"][/TD]
[TD="class: odd, bgcolor: #EEEEEE"][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: even, bgcolor: #DDDDDD"] Sat, Nov 08[/TD]
[TD="class: even, bgcolor: #DDDDDD"] Kansas *[/TD]
[TD="class: even, bgcolor: #DDDDDD"]Lawrence, Kan.[/TD]
[TD="class: even time, bgcolor: #DDDDDD"] TBA[/TD]
[TD="class: even, bgcolor: #DDDDDD"][/TD]
[TD="class: even, bgcolor: #DDDDDD"][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: odd, bgcolor: #EEEEEE"] Sat, Nov 22[/TD]
[TD="class: odd, bgcolor: #EEEEEE"] Texas Tech *[/TD]
[TD="class: odd, bgcolor: #EEEEEE"]Ames, Iowa[/TD]
[TD="class: odd time, bgcolor: #EEEEEE"] TBA[/TD]
[TD="class: odd, bgcolor: #EEEEEE"][/TD]
[TD="class: odd, bgcolor: #EEEEEE"][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: even, bgcolor: #DDDDDD"] Sat, Nov 29[/TD]
[TD="class: even, bgcolor: #DDDDDD"] West Virginia *[/TD]
[TD="class: even, bgcolor: #DDDDDD"]Ames, Iowa[/TD]
[TD="class: even time, bgcolor: #DDDDDD"] TBA[/TD]
[TD="class: even, bgcolor: #DDDDDD"][/TD]
[TD="class: even, bgcolor: #DDDDDD"][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: odd, bgcolor: #EEEEEE"] Sat, Dec 06[/TD]
[TD="class: odd, bgcolor: #EEEEEE"] TCU *[/TD]
[TD="class: odd, bgcolor: #EEEEEE"]Ft. Worth, Texas[/TD]
[TD="class: odd time, bgcolor: #EEEEEE"] TBA[/TD]
[TD="class: odd, bgcolor: #EEEEEE"][/TD]
[TD="class: odd, bgcolor: #EEEEEE"][/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]
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Every year 1-2 teams go opposite their expectations. This year, TCU was a top 1 or 2 team in the Big XII by almost everybody. Honestly, looking at the schedule I could see anywhere from 2 wins (Toledo, WVU) to 8 wins (NDSU, Iowa, Toledo, K St, Kansas, T Tech, WVU, TCU). I don't think we will be at the point to knock off the other 4. But, again all depends on our OC hire, our player development and injuries.
 
mark said:
No more damn excuses. The dead wood is cut and now is the time to expect results. 2014 -- what is defined as a success? I am looking at 5-7. What say you?
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Dude lay the f*** off for a bit. He made the decision he had to do and let it be for a while. My god can u think of being positive instead of being negative?
 
I'll go to the games, cheer, and offer my opinion when adversity hits but I'll leave the "hold CPR responsible" up to JP. CPR loves this school as much as CBF and CFH so he absolutely wants the best for Iowa State and in that I trust JP's leadership.
 
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