I really don't want to interrupt the HB thing going on but getting back to this year. People have talked about Oliver, Dorr, Bubu, ect. redshirting this year - My question is what is the time line on the younger kids to redshirt and who decides this? Any info on this?
Redshirting?
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Agreed. I remember Brock Jacobson was redshirted as a preferred walk-on of Wayne Morgan's in 05-06.. and he ended up leaving the team before his eligibility was up because he graduated.
In fairness, he left because his body wouldn't physically hold up to him playing basketball...
Go to the ISU website and listen to Coach. He said the walkons will redshirt unless we need Dorr for depth
I suspect thqat the idea is that if either walkon proves good enough to actually play a substantial amount a fifth year, they might be on scholarship.
I was all for redshirting Oliver, but now I don't think they should. Might as well let him play and develop as quickly as possible. Really liked what I saw of him--long arms, athletic, disruptive on defense (3 steals), has a decent shot (looked good in warmups and rattled a 3 in during the game), and very athletic (dunk). If we have him w/ experience next year that + Ejim will help replace Gilstrap (if no HB). Also, will be good to have him this year to potentially rest Gilstrap.
I have been told different things about redshirting: needs to be before first game, needs to be before first conference game, ect. - I didn't understand redshirting a walk-on unless maybe down the road there is a possibility of playing time.... He is paying his own way and wants to be there regardless.
No offense but what Oliver did was in garbage time against a terrible team's subs. I like what I saw too but you have to consider who he was playing against. He probably could have started for that team...
A redshirt is the best option for him right now
A redshirt is the best option for him right now
CycloneErik
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I'm with you 100% on this. He wouldn't see much time this year, and we have enough lineup options that those spot minutes aren't necessary.
What he could do after developing in a redshirt year, though, would be incredible to watch! I really like this guy. When he gets going, he'll be a real fan favorite:smile:
There is no rule that says you have to "declare" a redshirt at any point before or during the season. As long as the player in question doesn't appear in a non-exhibition game, the redshirt is preserved.
If he goes the entire season and doesn't play, then he and the coaches have the option to decide whether to consider it as a redshirt year, or as a normal year.
Yeah, I know the quality of the team he was playing against. I'm bipolar on the whole subject (despite what I wrote), but it seems the trend (for me) is that if I'm feeling good about the future I think we should play him (as we'll keep getting better and bring in more and more solid recruits); if I'm negative about the future I think we should redshirt him, as we need him for as long as possible and to fill that spot in the future. Like I said, bipolar. 
It is between the staff and the player. I dont think Mac would force a player to use a redshirt but would urge them too. One would guess the player knows what he is up against, from a phyical stand point.
I don't know if it happens often, but it makes tons of sense. Most walkons only get garbage time if anything. If a walkon turns out to be a hidden gem, the walkon gets them an extra year. If they aren't, they graduate in 4 years and leave the team. It also gives them the flexibility to keep playing during grad school if they want.
Another advantage is that if the player decides after a couple years that he wants to transfer to a smaller school, he won't have wasted 1 year of eligibility with scrub minutes.
Really the only downside is that the walkon misses out on scrub minutes as a freshman. If it means that much to them, I'm sure the coach won't mind them not redshirting.
Why not redshirt a walk on, there is no rule they have to stay in the program for 5 years. Might as well redshirt them save a year of eligibility for them incase they can be a contributor beyond the scout team.
