Realignment Megathread (All The Moves)
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I agree. The Big 12 offered a merger with the Pac 12 last year, they rejected it. They didn't care out the Big 12 at all, so time to pay back in kind. Take the schools we want and the rest could die on the vine. They had a chance to save themselves last year.
I don’t know why people keep saying they’re not worried about the ACC. Their current deal doesn’t preclude them from trying to add teams.
I had a thought, if the $100 million per a school per a year figure is being thrown around for the new Big Ten contract, what’s to stop Texas and Oklahoma from joining the that conference instead of the SEC? Like how binding is SEC membership right now for OU and Texas?
Article said OU and UW are worth $60 Mm together. The whole pac without the LA schools is $300 MM (so that doesn’t make a lot of sense) so that would be 30MM per team. So if we add those 10 teams to our 12, we lower our value 5-10 MM per team.
Also, if we merge versus taking 2-6 teams, what does that do? They would play each other and we would play ourselves so there is not much point.
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But it could open the contract back up. Some are saying that it could give big boys a premature out. Not sure how realistic that is.
Why would anyone want to be locked into that league with that media deal? 2032 are you kidding me? What are their numbers? I didn't think they were that good? Isn't it more likely the BIG and SEC totally not collusionally pick them apart to kill the league nullifying their media right deal?
What is the draw for schools to the ACC in your opinion?
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Today's journalism sucks. I am no expert in the field, but you are supposed to get 3 sources with 1 on the record. If not, it isn't credible news. That rule went out the window with the advent of the internet. A Dodd type's "anonymous source" is likely a janitor on the school's football team.
I don’t think you take any school with the idea they’ll jump at the next opportunity to help themselves. You take them with a iron clad BOR that doesn’t align with the Big 10 media deal. They don’t have leverage to play this in the short term as I don’t see they have other options. We’ve seen what happens when you allow teams to have options and instability/mistrust it causes between schools.
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Exactly, grab the four mountain schools, and force Oregon and Washingtons hands if the B1G invite doesn’t come. They can either add the left over G5 schools, or sign a GoR with the Big12 making more money.
That is an awesome thought. Let's say that happens (unlikely, but very fun to think about). Does that give the ACC more or less stability? How much more would the Big 10 pay than the SEC in that scenario? Do you think there would be any in the Big 12 who would favor encouraging that very move by negotiating favorable terms for an early exit only to the Big 10 out of spite for the SEC?
Cal is awful. I realize the whole Colorado bailed on us, but we can just use that as fuel for the rivalry. Colorado is much better than Cal for the Conference and history with many of the schools.
The most fascinating thing that happened last week to me is Gene Smith’s revelation that OSU considered going independent. Considering this came out while the b1g is courting the most valuable CFB program who happens to currently be an independent is interesting to say the least. So either, A: he was unaware of the b1g’s pursuit of ND and committed a hugely coincidental faux pas, (extremely doubtful) B: He’s not crazy about OSU playing second fiddle to a new b1g member after being the 800# gorilla in the room for so long. (45% likelihood) or C: He’s firing a shot across the bow of schools like NW and Iowa to forewarn them about impending unequal revenue sharing.(45% likelihood) I’d really like to get @ChrisMWilliams opinion on this.
ESPN doesn't want to blow up the ACC, they already own all of its rights, just like they do the SEC.
If the B1G is really going to be worth $100M each there isn't ANY school in the ACC that can pull their own weight.
The only thing the ACC and the Big XII need to hold things together on their end, is to be guaranteed a playoff spot for their champions. That's totally in the hands of the TV networks.
Now, the PAC might want to try and poach away the best teams from the Big 12 as some have suggested, but honestly they weren't getting media dollars with UCLA and USC, so any pitch they make to our schools would need to be taken with a huge grain of salt. The reality is, the Big 12 is in the stronger position for once. We only lack in support from the talking heads of college football, which is no small thing, but our teams draw good TV numbers by comparison to the PAC, and that's what you get paid for.
As an outdoor lover, these four schools all have fantastic hiking. Boulder and SLC are literally in the mountains and the AZ schools have a super unique topography.
I dont know where some of these people come up with these numbers. I think half of them pull them out of their @$$. But regardless, in the case of the Big 12 it would be more valuable because there would be one less major conference for content to bid for. 1 less conference for major drawing games.
Individual value is different than value as a whole. What a particular school and their possible future matchups value is. Especially if there is no PAC 12 left for those games to fill slots. That means any network that wants content has to get it somewhere else, ie the Big 12. As the B1G and SEC and ACC appear tied up.