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NFL: ***Official Week Three Thread***

jbindm

jbindm

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New York Jets at Cleveland to start the weekend off. I'm kind of curious to watch at least a little bit of this one. It'd be more interesting if the Browns had handed the keys to Baker Mayfield already but this will be my first look at Darnold. The Browns have been pretty solid defensively, or at the very least they've been opportunistic. They lead the league in turnover differential at +6 through two games. I'll take them to break their winless streak tonight.
 
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jbindm said:
New York Jets at Cleveland to start the weekend off. I'm kind of curious to watch at least a little bit of this one. It'd be more interesting if the Browns had handed the keys to Baker Mayfield already but this will be my first look at Darnold. The Browns have been pretty solid defensively, or at the very least they've been opportunistic. They lead the league in turnover differential at +6 through two games. I'll take them to break their winless streak tonight.
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The Browns are a decent kicker away from being 2-0. Tyrod Taylor is doing well enough and the Browns need to look no further than their GM's previous team, Kansas City, to see how great it is to be able to sit a rookie QB their first year.
 
DandyCyclone said:
The Browns are a decent kicker away from being 2-0. Tyrod Taylor is doing well enough and the Browns need to look no further than their GM's previous team, Kansas City, to see how great it is to be able to sit a rookie QB their first year.
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Eh. Every QB is different, and a guy is ready when he's ready. The Jets were right to put Darnold out there and let him learn on the job, and Buffalo was half right in keeping Josh Allen on the sidelines to start the season. Their only mistake was making Nathan Peterman the starter.
Unless the Browns start winning and find themselves in the hunt, then they're better off putting Mayfield in and getting the new era underway. I don't blame them for sticking with Taylor for as long as they can because Hue Jackson needs to win to keep his job. But for those in the organization thinking long term - Dorsey and Haslem - the priority will be getting Baker Mayfield out there sooner than later.
 
The beer fridges will open tonight. Book it.

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Greg Cosell was saying on Sirius this morning that he actually thought Darnold played better in Week 2 than Week 1, regardless of the score. He's still learning route progressions and how to read defenses, but it looks like he'll progress.
 
DandyCyclone said:
The Browns are a decent kicker away from being 2-0. Tyrod Taylor is doing well enough and the Browns need to look no further than their GM's previous team, Kansas City, to see how great it is to be able to sit a rookie QB their first year.
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I'm a firm believer in letting a rookie sit and learn. Too many teams draft a QB and just throw them out there when they can't be ready. A HOF QB like Peyton Manning struggled in his first season. Just imagine how hard it is for the others who weren't as prepared as he was.
 
Stupid Packers game being shown in Des Moines and not the Chiefs/Niners game. As a Chiefs fan, watching Mahomes play is amazing. Alex Smith had the same receivers open, but just wouldn't pull the trigger like Mahomes does. I knew it took a special kind of talent to lose to Iowa State 66-10.

Chiefs should beat the Niners in their home opener.
 
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Cyclones_R_GR8 said:
I'm a firm believer in letting a rookie sit and learn. Too many teams draft a QB and just throw them out there when they can't be ready. A HOF QB like Peyton Manning struggled in his first season. Just imagine how hard it is for the others who weren't as prepared as he was.
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I think it all depends on the QB and the state of the franchise. Peyton Manning would be the first guy to tell you how valuable it was for him to play that first year and get the reps. Plus the Colts sucked and they would have sucked whether he was starting or riding the pine. It's a given that rookie QBs are going to have their struggles. What you have to determine when you have one is their readiness for the NFL and how you think they'll respond to adversity. You can certainly ruin a young QB by throwing them out there too early, but some of these guys are just ready to take the reps and learn on the job. Not only that, but the current "winning template" in the league is to have a young, cost-controlled QB that you can leverage into a loaded roster to compete, like what the Rams are doing with Goff. They know they have about a two or maybe three year window before they have to pay him and the money will get tight. So there's pressure to get a rookie QB on the field. Bottom line is that there's no one-size-fits-all strategy.
 
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Stupid Packers game being shown in Des Moines and not the Chiefs/Niners game. As a Chiefs fan, watching Mahomes play is amazing. Alex Smith had the same receivers open, but just wouldn't pull the trigger like Mahomes does. I knew it took a special kind of talent to lose to Iowa State 66-10.

Chiefs should beat the Niners in their home opener.
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This is what worries me the most about Mahomes. He was obviously great in college and is doing great starting in the NFL but those were mostly warm weather games. The ISU game was cold for those Texas boys and look how poorly he played. How will Mahomes do when it gets cold in December in Kansas?
 
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This is what worries me the most about Mahomes. He was obviously great in college and is doing great starting in the NFL but those were mostly warm weather games. The ISU game was cold for those Texas boys and look how poorly he played. How will Mahomes do when it gets cold in December in Kansas?
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Agreed. But I think the Tech defense quit that day, and there was not much Mahomes could do about it. Remember Lanning running wild? Their D did not want to be there in the cold, and very much did not want to take on Lanning.

Although he was a captain, he folded it up also.

But doubt we see it this year on an NFL team (winning team). He did start against the Broncos in late December last year and game time temp was only 17 degrees.
 
DandyCyclone said:
This is what worries me the most about Mahomes. He was obviously great in college and is doing great starting in the NFL but those were mostly warm weather games. The ISU game was cold for those Texas boys and look how poorly he played. How will Mahomes do when it gets cold in December in Kansas?
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I wouldn't be too worried about it. If I remember right he was playing through a couple different injuries by the time that game rolled around. And I'd bet he's played in a couple cold weather games throughout his career and done OK.
He's obviously not going to keep up the torrid pace he's set through the first two games but KC definitely has a keeper.
 
jbindm said:
I wouldn't be too worried about it. If I remember right he was playing through a couple different injuries by the time that game rolled around. And I'd bet he's played in a couple cold weather games throughout his career and done OK.
He's obviously not going to keep up the torrid pace he's set through the first two games but KC definitely has a keeper.
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IIRC, he hurt his right shoulder trucking one of our safeties so Shimonek played awhile.
 
Taylor going to the locker room with a potential concussion. Baker time!
 
The difference in zip on the ball between Baker & Tyrod is huge. Baker way more accurate as well.

That said he will have his hands full this 2nd Half. Browns OL stinks.
 
Mayfield hasn't even played a complete NFL game, much less won one, but I think I will have no problems saying I was wrong about him being Manziel 2.0.

Just imagine if his receivers weren't dropping passes left and right.
 
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