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Non-conference schedule needs to be beefed up in 2013

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allenj32

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Dec 4, 2011
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181Nov. 9Southern University82-59
319Nov. 12Alabama A&M98-40
337Nov. 18Campbell88-68
262Nov. 20North Carolina A&T86-57
263Dec. 9Nebraska Omaha93-65


Here are our wins against Sub-150 teams, which will only hurt us in March when the selection committee is looking at our "body of work". When we play a non-conference schedule like this and don't have any "quality" wins, then it puts that much more pressure on the team to succeed in conference play. If we get one or two marquee wins outside of conference and play a tougher schedule, then it will help us time it comes March to have played better competition along with our overall seeding by the selection committee. Thoughts?
 
Next season non-conference schedule is going to be tough as hell. We play Michigan, Iowa, @BYU, UNI, the tournament in Hawaii and the possible Big XII/SEC Challenge game. I'm looking forward to it.
 
With the Big 12 being down this year, I think our non-con schedule will end up biting us in the butt
 
gocubs2118 said:
Next season non-conference schedule is going to be tough as hell. We play Michigan, Iowa, @BYU, UNI, the tournament in Hawaii and the possible Big XII/SEC Challenge game. I'm looking forward to it.
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Who does ISU play in that tournament? Can't seem to find it.

That slate looks challenging, not overly brutal — pretty good. If there could be one other potential high-RPI matchup, and the cupcakes aren't completely off the map, I would take it.
 
isufbcurt said:
I am fine with playing cupcakes, I actually like watching us blowout teams
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Agreed, i come to watch iowa state, i dont care a ton about the opponent, up until you get to BCS opponents, and most of those are opting to only compete against other BCS teams in neutral venues.. in which case ISU season ticketholders lose a home game.

Plenty of good games in the conference season.
 
allenj32 said:
181Nov. 9Southern University82-59
319Nov. 12Alabama A&M98-40
337Nov. 18Campbell88-68
262Nov. 20North Carolina A&T86-57
263Dec. 9Nebraska Omaha93-65


Here are our wins against Sub-150 teams, which will only hurt us in March when the selection committee is looking at our "body of work". When we play a non-conference schedule like this and don't have any "quality" wins, then it puts that much more pressure on the team to succeed in conference play. If we get one or two marquee wins outside of conference and play a tougher schedule, then it will help us time it comes March to have played better competition along with our overall seeding by the selection committee. Thoughts?
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I agree we need more bulk, but even if it's relatively similar most years, ISU needs to win more of the existing marquee games.
 
isufbcurt said:
I am fine with playing cupcakes, I actually like watching us blowout teams
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There are always going to be cupcakes on the schedule but the amount of cupcakes we've played over the past two seasons is what's killing our SOS and RPI. Luckily last year the Big XII was good enough for us to make up for our lack of non-conference wins. This year might be a different story. Hopefully it doesn't bite us in the ***.
 
allenj32 said:
181Nov. 9Southern University82-59
319Nov. 12Alabama A&M98-40
337Nov. 18Campbell88-68
262Nov. 20North Carolina A&T86-57
263Dec. 9Nebraska Omaha93-65


Here are our wins against Sub-150 teams, which will only hurt us in March when the selection committee is looking at our "body of work". When we play a non-conference schedule like this and don't have any "quality" wins, then it puts that much more pressure on the team to succeed in conference play. If we get one or two marquee wins outside of conference and play a tougher schedule, then it will help us time it comes March to have played better competition along with our overall seeding by the selection committee. Thoughts?
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Whose fault is it exactly that we've lost to Cincinatti, UNLV, and Iowa (all of which would be solid wins come March)?
 
Fans like you I cannot stand. You love mediocrity and like to attend games because they are "social events". I'm guessing you come 30 minutes late and leave 10 minutes early.

We want to compete on a national level and in order to do so, we need to stop playing High School teams. Look at Michigan State, Butler, Duke, UNC, Long Beach State. All of these teams have beefed up their schedules to player tougher competition to prepare them for the postseason. Playing "cupcakes" does nothing and is basically like a glorified practice.
 
allenj32 said:
Fans like you I cannot stand. You love mediocrity and like to attend games because they are "social events". I'm guessing you come 30 minutes late and leave 10 minutes early.

We want to compete on a national level and in order to do so, we need to stop playing High School teams. Look at Michigan State, Butler, Duke, UNC, Long Beach State. All of these teams have beefed up their schedules to player tougher competition to prepare them for the postseason. Playing "cupcakes" does nothing and is basically like a glorified practice.
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I've wanted a tougher schedule for a while, and Fred's been beefing it up bit by bit. I'm satisfied, and I don't believe that a few cupcakes hurt.

How in the world did you manage to include Long Beach State with those powerhouse teams that people tune in to see? Those teams have ESPN involved in their noncon schedules, because they're big draws. Long Beach State? How did you get there?

Nice work calling out other fans, too. That always goes well.
 
allenj32 said:
Fans like you I cannot stand. You love mediocrity and like to attend games because they are "social events". I'm guessing you come 30 minutes late and leave 10 minutes early.

We want to compete on a national level and in order to do so, we need to stop playing High School teams. Look at Michigan State, Butler, Duke, UNC, Long Beach State. All of these teams have beefed up their schedules to player tougher competition to prepare them for the postseason. Playing "cupcakes" does nothing and is basically like a glorified practice.
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And i hate fans like you that are clueless on scheduling and thinks everyone needs to schedule extremely difficult schedules.

Hell, this year with a team that everyone knew was going to take time to gel with this many new players, beefing up the schedule only meant more opportunities to show off how not ready we are.
 
I am not sure what else you want them to do. They played BYU, Iowa, Cincinnati, and UNLV. That is about as hard as I want it. You can't jsut schedule whoever you want unless you want to go on the road the entire time which makes no sense either. Most years the B12 is plenty tough and gives you plenty of chances for good wins. Scheduling is not the issue. This year the conference is a little down but 9 out of 10 years conference play plus the above is plenty. Problem is, you have to win some, and ISU won zero this year.
 
Our schedule has actually been pretty tough compared to recent years. I'm just happy it hasn't been harder because we would have more losses. The tough teams would be scheduled at away or at a neutral site, because as someone previously said, good teams don't want to schedule road games. We have played BAD away from Hilton this year. No need to want more of that until this team comes together.
 
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