Monday-ish OT: Yes But No

[MeanDean]

Yeah - exceptionally misogynistic in hindsight, but normal for the era. I preferred the Smothers Brothers. Tommy was a helluva lot smarter than what he portrayed on TV.

Side note: my father hated BOTH shows, so we usually went over and watched with friends.

Yes, the Smothers Brothers was preferred here in retrospect. My father literally almost never watched television until after he retired. But we would regularly visit the grandparents, his parents, on Sunday evenings, so I remember a lot of Ed Sullivans, Smothers Brothers and The FBI watching at their house. THEY had a COLOR TV!

 

[NWICY]

I watched a couple of episodes of Hill Street Blues the other night. It's still pretty good IMO.

 

[cyclones500]

Rowan and Martin's Laugh-In. I thought it was the most hilarious off-the-wall irreverent humor when I was a lad of 11 or 12. Watched a couple times since. Wowser.

"Laugh-in" is one of the earliest shows I remember watching with my family. I get the sense it was considered somewhat bold in that era (with all that swingin' hippie stuff) but still "safe" enough for prime time general audience.

I haven't watched a replay of it for quite a few years, maybe sometime in the late-90s. When I watched at that point, the more broad-humor aspects aged better than the late-60s period humor. That's probably typical of any show whose identity is anchored so closely to its era.

 

[cyclones500]

Rowan and Martin's Laugh-In. I thought it was the most hilarious off-the-wall irreverent humor when I was a lad of 11 or 12. Watched a couple times since. Wowser.

"Say goodnight, D*ck."
"Goodnight, D*ck!"

 

[jcyclonee]

So sorry, this was supposed to be on Monday, but we were moving. I'm just now at a computer. Thanks again to @madguy30 for these ideas!

What are some shows or movies that you thought were good when they first came out, and realized they weren't?

Examples:

Godfather Part 3 - At first, I thought it was another great FFC movie in the trilogy. After I thought about it, though, I realized that there was nowhere as much nuance in it as the others. It was such a letdown to me after the first two were so great.

Star Wars - I liked these movies when I was in grade school. But the story is super predictable (local boy saves the world, someone falls down a deep hole, etc.). And the dialogue is pretty terrible. I know that it is an unpopular opinion, but I think most people love them solely for nostalgia.

Almost every M. Night Shyamalan movie after The Sixth Sense - we get it, you like twists. But the twist in Signs was dumb, and The Village twist was utterly predictable.

Star Wars? That is a controversial take.

Yes. It's predictable and has terrible dialogue but's it's the comfort food of movies. It's the fried chicken, mashed potatoes and dinner roll of movies.

 

[jcyclonee]

In high school, we used to watch Hollywood Knights all the time. I watched it recently. It's bad.

 

[madguy30]

I think the biggest problems with M Night Shayamalan movies since The Sixth Sense, is that everyone expects them to be as good as The Sixth Sense!
Signs and The Village aren't great all time movies, but they are still good movies and well acted. I very much appreciate them. Unbreakable, Split, and Glass are all great separately, but I think they are better together. Lady in the Water was kind of a dud. I didn't rush out to see it and I wasn't impressed with it either.

Everyone expects the monstrous twist, and it's not always about that.

Ooh..another one. The Sixth Sense.

Good if you've never seen it but after that....

 

[BuffettClone]

Ooh..another one. The Sixth Sense.

Good if you've never seen it but after that....

That's kind of the problem to me for his movies. The twist makes it good the first time, but rewatchability (if that's a word) is kinda low.

A note on the Sixth Sense, I figured out the "twist" really early in the movie so the only suspense for me was when Bruce was going to realize it. I did still enjoy it though.

 

[cyhiphopp]

Ooh..another one. The Sixth Sense.

Good if you've never seen it but after that....

Honestly, I still enjoy it. I've caught a few things I missed the first time I watched it. It's also incredibly well done and well acted.

I really like movies though.

 

[ImJustKCClone]

That's kind of the problem to me for his movies. The twist makes it good the first time, but rewatchability (if that's a word) is kinda low.

A note on the Sixth Sense, I figured out the "twist" really early in the movie so the only suspense for me was when Bruce was going to realize it. I did still enjoy it though.

Watched it at the theater with my then 20-year-old son. Afterward we sat in the car in the parking lot for about a half hour going back over the whole movie to find the clues we missed. Neither one of us figured it out before seeing the end. You're pretty much the first person who I've heard say they did.

 

[Cyclones_R_GR8]

I hate trailers. I avoid them whenever possible. I might catch a teaser trailer by accident, but I'm not about watching a 5 minute synopsis of a movie before I pay to see it.

A trailer used to show just enough to get you to want to see the movie. Now it seems once you've seen the trailer, you've seen the movie. I'm trying to remember, there was a movie in the last 2-3 years where the trailer actually showed a major plot point that most people would consider a spoiler.

 

[srjclone]

Went in with high hopes, but Captain Marvel was not a good movie at all

 

[BuffettClone]

Watched it at the theater with my then 20-year-old son. Afterward we sat in the car in the parking lot for about a half hour going back over the whole movie to find the clues we missed. Neither one of us figured it out before seeing the end. You're pretty much the first person who I've heard say they did.

I think it was his wife ignoring him after seeing their relationship at the beginning of the movie and thinking,"if I or my spouse just had a near-death experience, I would use that as motivation to enhance my relationship and enjoy it while I still could." Then it dawned on me pretty quick and said to myself "Marky Mark's big brother killed him"

 

[VeloClone]

I think it was his wife ignoring him after seeing their relationship at the beginning of the movie and thinking,"if I or my spouse just had a near-death experience, I would use that as motivation to enhance my relationship and enjoy it while I still could." Then it dawned on me pretty quick and said to myself "Marky Mark's big brother killed him"

I didn't recognize Wahlberg and had to see it again to realize it was him. It was quite the departure for him from what he had played up to that time and he had lost a lot of weight for the role.

 

[khardbored]

So sorry, this was supposed to be on Monday, but we were moving. I'm just now at a computer. Thanks again to @madguy30 for these ideas!


Star Wars - I liked these movies when I was in grade school. But the story is super predictable (local boy saves the world, someone falls down a deep hole, etc.). And the dialogue is pretty terrible. I know that it is an unpopular opinion, but I think most people love them solely for nostalgia.

 

[urb1]

Yeah - exceptionally misogynistic in hindsight, but normal for the era. I preferred the Smothers Brothers. Tommy was a helluva lot smarter than what he portrayed on TV.

Side note: my father hated BOTH shows, so we usually went over and watched with friends.

Funny. My dad hated both shows, too. Especially Smothers Brothers.

 

[ImJustKCClone]

Funny. My dad hated both shows, too. Especially Smothers Brothers.

Did your father vote for Nixon too?

 

[urb1]

Did your father vote for Nixon too?

Of course! Who else?

 

[CtownCyclone]

Did your father vote for Nixon too?

Looks like a lot of people voted for Nixon...