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Anyone know what kind of game their bigs play? Looking at their roster their biggest guys are Kalen Grimes (6'9'' 250) and Leo Lyons (6'9'' 225). It seems feasible to me with our superior height to employ the same game plan as we did against NDSU. Feed it into Jiri and give him a chance to prove the game against NDSU wasn't a fluke.
Frankly, drawing fouls, getting it inside, and shooting well against the press are going to be a must for us to have a chance in this game. We really need to set the tempo of this game and not turn it over. We've done a good job setting the tempo earlier this year, but have done a terrible job with turning it over. Our press break better be on.
For an example of how they play, they average 74.3 possessions per game, good for 26th fastest pace in the country. We average 65.3 possessions, good for 264th in the country. We can't get to running with these guys because we won't be able to keep up.
Basically, if we shoot well, get some extra possessions with some offensive rebounds, protect the ball, and control the pace, we'll be in the game at the end. If we don't do these things, we could get absolutely worked.
For an example of how they play, they average 74.3 possessions per game, good for 26th fastest pace in the country. We average 65.3 possessions, good for 264th in the country. We can't get to running with these guys because we won't be able to keep up.
Basically, if we shoot well, get some extra possessions with some offensive rebounds, protect the ball, and control the pace, we'll be in the game at the end. If we don't do these things, we could get absolutely worked.
My question is why our opponents don't use the full-court press more often. It would only take a stupid 3rd-grader five minutes of looking at our game tapes to figure out that no matter how well we play in a game, when the opponent turns on the full-court press, we completely come apart at the seams. You would think that teams would figure this out and apply the press from the get-go, especially if they've practiced playing that.
Don't get me wrong, I'm glad that's not what's happening, but I don't understand why it's not. Is there some weakness to the press that our guys could potentially take advantage of?
Don't get me wrong, I'm glad that's not what's happening, but I don't understand why it's not. Is there some weakness to the press that our guys could potentially take advantage of?
Wait a minute - they haven't really beaten anyone. Thus, I am not sure we can say they are 'good'. Wow, they beat Arkansas at home - big deal.
You can sum up the game pretty easily. Missouri will press us baseline to baseline for 40 minutes. They will play 10-12 guys and they will try very hard to turn the game into a track meet. On the other hand, we will try to do what we did at Ohio State, except for all 40 minutes this time- play a VERY controled tempo on offense, defend the half-court like our lives depend on it, and rebound like crazy (i.e., take the crowd out of the game).
Prediction: On paper, Missouri is a heavy favorite. I'm not sure we'll have enough horses to pull off the big upset, but I'll bet anything we're going to make things very frustrating for the Tigers and their fans. I will be surprised if Missouri covers the spread, whatever it ends up being.
Prediction: On paper, Missouri is a heavy favorite. I'm not sure we'll have enough horses to pull off the big upset, but I'll bet anything we're going to make things very frustrating for the Tigers and their fans. I will be surprised if Missouri covers the spread, whatever it ends up being.
In my opinion because our half court offense is really bad. With the press you will get turnovers but will also give up dunks and wide open shots. We seem to turn it over plenty in our half court sets that it might not make sense to let Taylor, Rashon, and Wesley use their athleticism over the whole court when we will be bad enough without the other team getting out of their half court defensive positioning.
I live in St. Louis so I end up watching a lot of Mizzou games with my friends around here that are primarily Mizzou alums. Honestly, I am not that impressed. Missouri may be further along than we are in the rebuilding process right now, but I don't think you can issue a blanket statement that they are world-beaters and will un-questionly destroy us.
I am not one to think that we will (and should) win every game, but this is a very winnable game against an average team. If Mizzou finishes in the top half of the conference, i will be very surprised.
Well, I don't think YOU can throw a blanket statement telling me I said Missouri was world-beaters and will 'destroy' us. Don't put words in my mouth.
All I said was that Missouri was good, that ISU wasn't, and that I think Missouri will win. How the hell you turned that into 'destroy' and 'world beaters' is beyond me.
All I said was that Missouri was good, that ISU wasn't, and that I think Missouri will win. How the hell you turned that into 'destroy' and 'world beaters' is beyond me.
Let's hope the officiating is decent. In my opinion, most pressing teams get away with a whole lot of hacking, especially at home. I haven't seen Missouri play so I don't know how good their press is. There's a big difference between say, a really good press and the "matador" press we used the previous 3 years.
Also of interest for this game, Missouri's best player Stefhon Hannah, was Mike Taylors Juco backcourt running mate. So far Hannah looks better than Mike which was also the case at their JC. It will be interesting to watch these two old friends match up. Hopefully Mike will elevate his game to send Stefhon a message.
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Missouri press could cause problems
They are similar to Drake, pressing the whole game, playing up-tempo ball. Earlier in the year, McDermott said that Missouri was probably the only other team ISU would play this year that does the same thing as Drake. Based on how the Drake game went, and on how poorly we seem to handle the press, plus the fact that the game is at Missouri, I don't expect a W unless the coaching staff and players figure out a solution to the press woes.
I think we recruited Stephon Hannah and Taylor after McD took over. I wish we would have ended up with Hannah rather than MacIntosh.
Mike Anderson seems to be a much better coach than Quinn was - at least the local media here in KC seems to think so. He had success at UAB making the tournament a few times. Being a product of former Arkansas coach Nolan Richardson, the tigers now employ a variant of the "40 minutes of hell" style that won Arkansas a national title in the early 90's. It's very up-tempo and relies on turnovers.
I don't recall any players leaving after Quinn was fired, so they probably have a bit more depth than us right now. Local KC media is kind of taking a wait and see apporach. Also, that win they got at home against Arkansas may not be such a good barometer of success - Anderson has a chip on his shoulder when it comes to Arkansas for the way they handled the Richardson dissmissal. Some could accuse Anderson of running up the score.
I think if we can slow the game down and limit the mistakes I like our chances. And if we chuck the 3's we'd better hit them because with the fast-break style Missouri plays, we may not have a chance at many offensive boards.
Can't wait to see what this team does in conference!
I don't recall any players leaving after Quinn was fired, so they probably have a bit more depth than us right now. Local KC media is kind of taking a wait and see apporach. Also, that win they got at home against Arkansas may not be such a good barometer of success - Anderson has a chip on his shoulder when it comes to Arkansas for the way they handled the Richardson dissmissal. Some could accuse Anderson of running up the score.
I think if we can slow the game down and limit the mistakes I like our chances. And if we chuck the 3's we'd better hit them because with the fast-break style Missouri plays, we may not have a chance at many offensive boards.
Can't wait to see what this team does in conference!
Had Blaylock made his decision a little sooner, ISU would have had a better chance to get Hannah. He wanted to come in and play immediately and ISU simply couldn't guarantee that. McIntosh was willing to roll the dice.
Hannah's style of play also fits Mizzou better than it fits ISU. Hannah may not have fit well into GMac's system because he is unaccustomed to such a structured offense. He's a "run and gun" type of player.
It still would have been nice to see him in a Clone uniform.