This guy is hard to watch. I'm not sure I've ever seen an ISU player more out of control with the basketball...it's frustrating to watch!!!
Mike Taylor
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This could be a year where I block out all the upper classmen (including Rashon) and just focus on the development of WJ, CJ, an Dodie. I am excited about that core...if they develop...and we can add two solid classes to them. In a couple of years, we'll be tough again.
Taylor is going to give you at least 20 every night...we just won't know if the 20 will be points or turnovers.
Taylor is going to give you at least 20 every night...we just won't know if the 20 will be points or turnovers.
We still need a banger with a Homan body. I must have posted this 20 times. Brackins is great, but still pretty slight. After watching this team, it will be nice to have big guards coming in, eg Staiger 6'5" and Garrett 6'4" at point. Then you get WJ at 6'7" Brackins at 6"10. Bring in a 7 footer from Compton or somewhere and you've got an NBA size lineup.
This one might be if Mike Taylor continues as our primary ball-handler! 4-15 from the floor with 8 TO's - Awful, I would have guessed he had a dozen! And this against the likes of Mike Henderson and Tony Freeman; it could be ugly in Big XII play!
Even worse than his ball-handling is his defense, which is just horrific. He finishes with only two fouls and I'll bet the guy(s) he was "guarding" combined for thirty points. They definitely had him scouted as the one to attack; no matter who he matched up with, that person immediately went on a roll; Freeman, Henderson, Haluska - Taylor is a sieve!
For the record, this is the first game all season that I've watched in total; I happened to be present at this one.
On the plus side, I saw some good things from Dodie Dunson and Wesley Johnson...
I agree with the conclusion everyone is getting at. Wes Johnson is going to be a force in the Big 12 in the years to come. Dunson is showing some good signs. He is more in control and lets his points and opportunities come to him rather than forcing things. He also is a better defender than Taylor. I also think when it is all said and done that Cory Johnson will be a solid player. He is about the only player I see that tries to post up more than just for show. He WANTS the ball down low. With that drive he should become better with more strength and experience.
Also, watching Taylor makes me sick to my stomach.
Also, watching Taylor makes me sick to my stomach.
I just don't get how Mike Taylor fits into what we are trying to do. How are the rest of the guys going to learn the system if Taylor is "running" the show.
I know it won't happen, but I think the team would benefit if Taylor came off the bench until he bought into the offense.
I know it won't happen, but I think the team would benefit if Taylor came off the bench until he bought into the offense.
I think Taylor and the team would be better off if they got him off the point. He has shown he can be a great shooter, but has trouble getting good shots from the point and would be more effectve as the off guard. The hawks did a great job of picking Taylor up at half court and getting him off his game.
I think the main problem is that we don't have any true power forwards and we definitely don't have a center.
Clark is kind of a tweener. He's not a power forward, but he's not a guard. W. Johnson has a chance to be a good power forward, but he isn't there yet, same with C. Johnson. Hubalek wants to be a finesse forward rather than a center.
So basically, we're playing with a bunch of guards and light forwards with little power. Not a formula for consistency.
I guess the way I see it is kind of like in football where if you don't have a decent running game, you're not going to win consistently....in basketball, if you don't have decent post play, you're not going to win consistently.
Clark is kind of a tweener. He's not a power forward, but he's not a guard. W. Johnson has a chance to be a good power forward, but he isn't there yet, same with C. Johnson. Hubalek wants to be a finesse forward rather than a center.
So basically, we're playing with a bunch of guards and light forwards with little power. Not a formula for consistency.
I guess the way I see it is kind of like in football where if you don't have a decent running game, you're not going to win consistently....in basketball, if you don't have decent post play, you're not going to win consistently.
Agreed. I think not having Taylor at the point would be a big help. Have him use his energy crossing through on the baseline, always have him on the move. Then when he gets the ball on the move, either take the open shot, pass to an open guy who was opened up due to his movement through the lane causing a defender to get confused, or else right back to the point if nothing is there for a open shot or a quick assist. Having him control and keep the ball is not the correct approach.
On defense he needs to guard the spot shooter, not a slasher. He's quick, but not in reacting to another player.
I think he could be a great player if used correctly.
I agree that Taylor might make a better 2. He needs to dial it down to about 3/4 speed from how he is playing now. Iowa State would have been better off walking the ball up and setting up a half court offense, than trying to break 1 or 2 on 4, or running willy nilly around the court before turning it over. Maybe GMAC can strap him to a chair and make him watch Jacy Holloway game film for a few days.
I'm sure that Taylor is learning from his experience, and will get better as the season goes on. He seems to be trying to take the whole team on his shoulders, and while he did that against Minnesota, it's just not going to happen every night.
I'm sure that Taylor is learning from his experience, and will get better as the season goes on. He seems to be trying to take the whole team on his shoulders, and while he did that against Minnesota, it's just not going to happen every night.
In some respects the Minnesota game might have been a bad thing for Mike. He was reasonably solid player in the first games. It seems that the game in Minneapolis has done more harm than good.
We all knew going into this it was going to be a tough season, this is a very limited team offensively. It seems that parts of the team have yet to buy into what GMac is trying to do. That is the reason that he went JUCO guard wise this year, because that gives him a year with the next crop of guards to hear from the guys that are there this year.
The guy that I am having the hardest time watching is Juri. He obviously never played in a system before, and he has no idea how to work within a scheme. I am pretty sure that Alex Thompson will be playing his minutes next year.
We all knew going into this it was going to be a tough season, this is a very limited team offensively. It seems that parts of the team have yet to buy into what GMac is trying to do. That is the reason that he went JUCO guard wise this year, because that gives him a year with the next crop of guards to hear from the guys that are there this year.
The guy that I am having the hardest time watching is Juri. He obviously never played in a system before, and he has no idea how to work within a scheme. I am pretty sure that Alex Thompson will be playing his minutes next year.
Have you ever thought that GMAC might be letting the players play the way they want to, to show it isn't going to work. Getting them more acceptable to his style of play? The players have to be embarrassed after last night. I would hope now they will listen.
Well he's been remarkably consistent the last 2 games. Shot 4-15 and committed 8 turnovers against both Drake and Iowa.
In the last 3 games he has shot 9-39 with 20 turnovers. That means he's given the ball to the opponent 50 times on 30 missed shots and 20 TO's compared to 9 baskets. Hard to win with those numbers.
In the last 3 games he has shot 9-39 with 20 turnovers. That means he's given the ball to the opponent 50 times on 30 missed shots and 20 TO's compared to 9 baskets. Hard to win with those numbers.
I said after the Minnesota game that Mike Taylor will be a Love - Hate relationship for Cyclone fans. When he's hot we'll love him & vice versa. I'd rather take consistency. I just don't see him as a GMAC player. You can tell that he frustrates GMAC... & he sure frustrates me.