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Miami Building Collapse

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Clark said:
I'm not an engineer, but given that it's in the Miami area my assumption is ground erosion.
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Since it's ocean side building there is always the potential of rust/corrosion of the rebar. Salt marine environment is very aggressive towards ferric and other metals. Still seems like a very freak thing to me to have a collapse with no preliminary signs of structural problems. Unless they were ignored.
 
I saw a little tidbit where someone had raised concerns about cracks forming when other large scale construction was going on in the area.
 
Clark said:
I'm not an engineer, but given that it's in the Miami area my assumption is ground erosion.
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That's a distinct possibility. I can't remember if Miami has the limestone cavern issues that occur further north.

We've got a job in Tampa and the ground conditions are a nightmare for the bridge we are building. Some places you drive a pile 55' and it's stuck solid. 45' away on the other side of the footing and you are still driving at 110' deep and having to splice the pile.
 
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It is amazing and scary how fast that went down. Now there's no audio so I guess it's possible that there were audible warnings that something wasn't right but damn that's a scary sight
 
Sousaclone said:
That's a distinct possibility. I can't remember if Miami has the limestone cavern issues that occur further north.

We've got a job in Tampa and the ground conditions are a nightmare for the bridge we are building. Some places you drive a pile 55' and it's stuck solid. 45' away on the other side of the footing and you are still driving at 110' deep and having to splice the pile.
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Have you ever seen the sinking skyscraper in San Francisco? Isn't that a pile issue?
 
Sigmapolis said:
No indication of foul play here, though, right?
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I don't think anyone knows anything yet. My assumption is no since they haven't indicated that there was, but they haven't announced an official or even speculative cause either so until they get that figured out, hard to tell if this was done intentionally I would think.
 
They mention there was AC work going on the roof, with as hot and muggy Florida is, maybe that could have kept a few residents away. Maybe?
 
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