I'm continued to be blown away but the number of posts of people complaining about content in threads. Take a deep breath everyone. It's a forum. Is the stuff about Marvin Clark? Yep - ok, shut the hell up then.
Marvin Clark
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So does ISU have good luck with "handlers"? Wes Johnson, RV, and Marvin all had handlers that took them away from ISU.
**** all of the "handlers". Reminds me of On the Waterfront. Who's interest are the "handlers" looking out for, really? If you want to be coached than come it ISU. The "They aren't respecting me!" comes off as "They aren't kissing my ***!" If they want to play us with handlers or think your handlers are getting anything from inside ISU than the kids can go fish.
Recruiting - it's mysterious, and sometimes deceitful - on both sides - much like HS relationships.
I'm not sure why it bothers you so much. People are allowed to have different interests.
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BoxsterCy;4044533[B said:
I don't know, this is a scenario where it's legit to have a handler IMO. Unlike Vaughn, Clark's home situation was bad. Clark's dad is dead, and his mom was in no position to be a positive role model in his life. A kid in his situation needs someone.
Actually came away pretty happy from that article. It told me ISU cooled on Clark, not the other way around. At least we know we can still get high school recruits. I'll trust Fred, just like always, he hasn't lead us astray yet.
Yeah I think the number one thing I took from that was Clark was interested in ISU not because of all the interest we showed and how hard we recruited him, but because of ISU's program and fans.
ISU wasn't super super interested and then that dropped off, Hoiberg seemed interested but not enough where Clark was a super high priority target. Then for some unknown reason he seemed to lose almost all interest.
Just speculating but I wonder when Matt A got the heads up on Cooke...we cooled on Marvin pretty early though but maybe Cooke knew he was transferring for a while
MA: I had known Hallice for a while now because I am close with his AAU program with Dustin Hogue playing with it when he was in the AAU scene. I loved Hallice coming out of high school. I didn’t recruit him at all but really knew that he was the type of kid going out to Oregon State that maybe if something ever went wrong, we could get involved in. I was given the heads up and was the first person to call him when he got his release.
My wild speculative guess would be either more evaluation of tape and deciding he wasn't as good as they thought or they decided that he couldn't make an immediate impact like a transfer could.
I think this article show how fluid recruiting can be. Indiana and MSU weren't even in the picture until Feb. It must be tough to have your job performance dependent on the fickle mind of an 18 year old and an entourage that have their own interests.
My take on the article is that ISU did't cool on Clarke because of his ability, I think we moved on because Clarke wouldn't commit. I think when Coach Hoiberg contacted him looking for reassurance- we wanted his verbal or we were movng our efforts in another direction.
As cool as Clarke's back story is. There is a lot going on there: 1) Handlers who are making life choices for the kid. 2) Family situation when Clarke wants to be the bread winner very quickly 3) Sketchy academic history.
I can see where it takes certain coaches on the staff specializing in recruiting.
My take on the article is that ISU did't cool on Clarke because of his ability, I think we moved on because Clarke wouldn't commit. I think when Coach Hoiberg contacted him looking for reassurance- we wanted his verbal or we were movng our efforts in another direction.
As cool as Clarke's back story is. There is a lot going on there: 1) Handlers who are making life choices for the kid. 2) Family situation when Clarke wants to be the bread winner very quickly 3) Sketchy academic history.
I can see where it takes certain coaches on the staff specializing in recruiting.
That was a very interesting article. As far as ISU's portion of it, I think it just comes down to only having so much time to recruit so many players. Coaches get a feel pretty fast as to the landscape around a player and his handlers and where they are trying to get a player placed. Hoiberg's no dummy. He isn't going to waste time recruiting a kid if he gets a gut feel that he is headed elsewhere. Investing lots of time on a player that ends up going somewhere else will inevitably also cost you the players that you weren't recruiting hard enough while chasing a kid you didn't get. It's a hard game to balance.