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First.. I come in peace to discuss basketball and all things Virginia (feeding off of your thread) from a UVA perspective. Reading your threads, I have come to some conclusions that are evident in your postings


  • You believe thesabre.com.. our forum was developed by a 3rd grader with Crayons. Quite the opposite. For those of us who have been posting for a long time over there, we prefer that format. Both UVA and Virginia Tech use the same type of forum and have tried the v.bulletin format. We simply prefer the style of our board (not all.. but most). It's very interactive and flows pretty easily.. you can expand or collapse the threads to give it the look you want..

Now for Basketball
  • I've read over and over again about our "slow Style" of play and how that fits right into the mold where you want us.. a few points about that notion
    • That's what everyone thinks. Our packline D is stifling for run-and-gun uptempo offenses. It completely takes you off of your rhythm and makes teams take bad shots or creates turnovers. UNC, Louisville (twice), Miami, Villanova, WVU, Cal, Duke (we won that game.. G Allen.. took about 9 steps), ND, Butler all thought the same.. look where it got them
    • Our OFFENSIVE and DEFENSIVE efficiency is near the top of the nation. Pretty solid for a "defensive" team
    • Malcolm Brogdon ACC DPOY and OPOY.. 1st time in history. Sure.. put your best on him and if he does happen to struggle... Hall, Perrentes, Tobey, Gill, Shayok, Wilkins, Thompson, Nolte will step up to fill the void. We are extremely deep. That's how we win games
    • The ACC arguably is the best conference in the nation.. 6 in the sweet 16. it's a brutal schedule and we fared pretty darned well. Top to bottom (Minus BC and Wake this year) can compete with any team in the land
    • Coaching.. Tony Bennett is just what the doctor ordered.. He's an unbelievable coach and person. His team buys into his TEAM concept or they usually don't get PT. What Tony has done with this program now, and in the future is remarkable.. Top 10 recruiting class next year speaks volumes. including Mr. Indiana, Kyle Guy
  • Non Basketball
    • I've read here about arrogance and the "better than thou" attitude form our fans.. unfortunately that is what we get from a lot of different fan bases. We're just some humble central Virginia folk :rolleyes:
    • If you don't know about our other programs.. 3 national championships last year (Baseball, Soccer, Tennis).. Football sucked.. Now we have Bronco Mendenhall from BYU and hoping to turn things around
  • What we think about ISU..
    • Going to be a tough out. Niang is a beast. going to be tough to try to neutralize him. if we can, we know that you guys have the firepower to get things going.. Morris, Nader..etc
    • We know you're going to try to push the pace.. that's what we're hoping for as that's where our D is at it's best. We also know that you have a great half court game. I've watched a few of your games and am very impressed. I for one, am worried about the match up

This will be a battle of two very good teams with two very good coaches. Sorry this sounded like a UVA resume but just wanted to set a few things straight. All UVA alumni and fans are not dicks... Here's to a injury free, great game...
 
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Virginia is very good, and your coach is a damn good coach. It should be a good game but if we are firing on all cylinders I like our chances.
 
I think we will try to push pace some, but over the course of the season Prohm has really made this a more patient offense than what ISU's perception had become over the Hoiberg years. I suspect you'll have trouble turning us over as much as you'd like, certainly some of the rotation are prone to getting too fast and making dumb decisions (looking at you Burton), but Morris has been rock-solid with the ball since his Freshman year and in general we take care of it pretty well.

I don't think we are quite as poor on the defensive end as our reputation/numbers, although Virginia certainly appears to have the efficiency on offense to make us work every possession. Where we have really gotten killed is rebounding the ball to close out defensive stands/giving up 2nd chance points.
 
One thing I disagree with the OP is we will run when you allow us to run. We are not going to try to speed up the game by forcing bad shots, because, as you noted, we are very efficient in the half-court offense as well.
 
One common misconception is that we NEED to push the pace to score. We'll take transition buckets when they are available, but we are an efficient offensive team when we run sets. We won't get frustrated if we can't push the pace. It's easy to be efficient when you have one of the best PGs in the nation that doesn't turn the ball over and one of the biggest matchup nightmares in Niang. When Morris and/or Niang are not on the floor, we are not a great offensive team. Virginia's sole purpose in the first 10 minutes of the game should be to get 2 fouls on Niang. That's how you will win.

I think we'll get our points and I think Virginia will score with us. It will all come down to the last 4 minutes of the game. I think Virginia is an elite team when it comes to closing a game and Iowa State has struggled with it from time to time this year. It should be a great game.
 
BTW, you probably think we're playing at the United Center. We're not, the game is at Hilton East.
 
WahooVA said:
First.. I come in peace to discuss basketball and all things Virginia (feeding off of your thread) from a UVA perspective. Reading your threads, I have come to some conclusions that are evident in your postings


  • You believe thesabre.com.. our forum was developed by a 3rd grader with Crayons. Quite the opposite. For those of us who have been posting for a long time over there, we prefer that format. Both UVA and Virginia Tech use the same type of forum and have tried the v.bulletin format. We simply prefer the style of our board (not all.. but most). It's very interactive and flows pretty easily.. you can expand or collapse the threads to give it the look you want..

Now for Basketball
  • I've read over and over again about our "slow Style" of play and how that fits right into the mold where you want us.. a few points about that notion
    • That's what everyone thinks. Our packline D is stifling for run-and-gun uptempo offenses. It completely takes you off of your rhythm and makes teams take bad shots or creates turnovers. UNC, Louisville (twice), Miami, Villanova, WVU, Cal, Duke (we won that game.. G Allen.. took about 9 steps), ND, Butler all thought the same.. look where it got them
    • Our OFFENSIVE and DEFENSIVE efficiency is near the top of the nation. Pretty solid for a "defensive" team
    • Malcolm Brogdon ACC DPOY and OPOY.. 1st time in history. Sure.. put your best on him and if he does happen to struggle... Hall, Perrentes, Tobey, Gill, Shayok, Wilkins, Thompson, Nolte will step up to fill the void. We are extremely deep. That's how we win games
    • The ACC arguably is the best conference in the nation.. 6 in the sweet 16. it's a brutal schedule and we fared pretty darned well. Top to bottom (Minus BC and Wake this year) can compete with any team in the land
    • Coaching.. Tony Bennett is just what the doctor ordered.. He's an unbelievable coach and person. His team buys into his TEAM concept or they usually don't get PT. What Tony has done with this program now, and in the future is remarkable.. Top 10 recruiting class next year speaks volumes. including Mr. Indiana, Kyle Guy
  • Non Basketball
    • I've read here about arrogance and the "better than thou" attitude form our fans.. unfortunately that is what we get from a lot of different fan bases. We're just some humble central Virginia folk :rolleyes:
    • If you don't know about our other programs.. 3 national championships last year (Baseball, Soccer, Tennis).. Football sucked.. Now we have Bronco Mendenhall from BYU and hoping to turn things around
  • What we think about ISU..
    • Going to be a tough out. Niang is a beast. going to be tough to try to neutralize him. if we can, we know that you guys have the firepower to get things going.. Morris, Nader..etc
    • We know you're going to try to push the pace.. that's what we're hoping for as that's where our D is at it's best. We also know that you have a great half court game. I've watched a few of your games and am very impressed. I for one, am worried about the match up

This will be a battle of two very good teams with two very good coaches. Sorry this sounded like a UVA resume but just wanted to set a few things straight. All UVA alumni and fans are not dicks... Here's to a injury free, great game...
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Welcome, and thanks for the insight. Should be a fun game with contrasting styles on Friday.
 
MNCyGuy said:
Some of you guys are a little over-sensitive. This guy was just being high on his own team, not being a dismissive **** about ours.
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I tried to read it with an open mind and he seems like a nice guy but it came off fairly elitist at least to me.
 
WahooVA said:
First.. I come in peace to discuss basketball and all things Virginia (feeding off of your thread) from a UVA perspective. Reading your threads, I have come to some conclusions that are evident in your postings


  • You believe thesabre.com.. our forum was developed by a 3rd grader with Crayons. Quite the opposite. For those of us who have been posting for a long time over there, we prefer that format. Both UVA and Virginia Tech use the same type of forum and have tried the v.bulletin format. We simply prefer the style of our board (not all.. but most). It's very interactive and flows pretty easily.. you can expand or collapse the threads to give it the look you want..

Now for Basketball
  • I've read over and over again about our "slow Style" of play and how that fits right into the mold where you want us.. a few points about that notion
    • That's what everyone thinks. Our packline D is stifling for run-and-gun uptempo offenses. It completely takes you off of your rhythm and makes teams take bad shots or creates turnovers. UNC, Louisville (twice), Miami, Villanova, WVU, Cal, Duke (we won that game.. G Allen.. took about 9 steps), ND, Butler all thought the same.. look where it got them
    • Our OFFENSIVE and DEFENSIVE efficiency is near the top of the nation. Pretty solid for a "defensive" team
    • Malcolm Brogdon ACC DPOY and OPOY.. 1st time in history. Sure.. put your best on him and if he does happen to struggle... Hall, Perrentes, Tobey, Gill, Shayok, Wilkins, Thompson, Nolte will step up to fill the void. We are extremely deep. That's how we win games
    • The ACC arguably is the best conference in the nation.. 6 in the sweet 16. it's a brutal schedule and we fared pretty darned well. Top to bottom (Minus BC and Wake this year) can compete with any team in the land
    • Coaching.. Tony Bennett is just what the doctor ordered.. He's an unbelievable coach and person. His team buys into his TEAM concept or they usually don't get PT. What Tony has done with this program now, and in the future is remarkable.. Top 10 recruiting class next year speaks volumes. including Mr. Indiana, Kyle Guy
  • Non Basketball
    • I've read here about arrogance and the "better than thou" attitude form our fans.. unfortunately that is what we get from a lot of different fan bases. We're just some humble central Virginia folk :rolleyes:
    • If you don't know about our other programs.. 3 national championships last year (Baseball, Soccer, Tennis).. Football sucked.. Now we have Bronco Mendenhall from BYU and hoping to turn things around
  • What we think about ISU..
    • Going to be a tough out. Niang is a beast. going to be tough to try to neutralize him. if we can, we know that you guys have the firepower to get things going.. Morris, Nader..etc
    • We know you're going to try to push the pace.. that's what we're hoping for as that's where our D is at it's best. We also know that you have a great half court game. I've watched a few of your games and am very impressed. I for one, am worried about the match up

This will be a battle of two very good teams with two very good coaches. Sorry this sounded like a UVA resume but just wanted to set a few things straight. All UVA alumni and fans are not dicks... Here's to a injury free, great game...
Click to expand...

Thanks for the insight. Wish this game was for the Final Four vs. Elite Eight, but it should be a good one. One of the best Thurs/Fri games.
 
I don't think he said anything about his team that we wouldn't say to opposing fans about out own. He even admitted that our players are fantastic and that he's worried about the matchup.

Everyone needs to chill out, do you expect opposing fans to come to this forum and grovel at the Cyclones feet?
 
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