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KSU Weather Forecast - Impact on Game?

abcguyks

abcguyks

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Saturday's NWS forecast for Manhattan includes rain and possible snow.

Saturday: A 50 percent chance of rain. Cloudy, with a high near 41.
Saturday Night: A chance of rain and snow. Mostly cloudy, with a low around 26. Chance of precipitation is 40%.

So who benefits from this? Neither team has a strong passing attack. Does removal of the pass threat make it easier to defend against Klein's runs? I see a small advantage for ISU playing in these conditions.

 
Advantage KSU. From what I've seen of them, they like power running. Guys like West and Horned could really be neutralized by a wet field.
 
Clonehomer said:
Advantage KSU. From what I've seen of them, they like power running. Guys like West and Horned could really be neutralized by a wet field.
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I don't know about that - our defensive strength is shutting down power running, and clearly ISU's strength is running the ball, whether it's ShonJ, White, Woody, or Tiller just holding onto the ball.
 
Maybe we can get Steele Jantz involved in some running plays by alternating qbs if it gets real slippery out there.

Maybe we need to shoot some gaps if it is slip sliding away time.

Sounds like the field may be frozen. Need the right shoes.....
 
jdoggivjc said:
I don't know about that - our defensive strength is shutting down power running, and clearly ISU's strength is running the ball, whether it's ShonJ, White, Woody, or Tiller just holding onto the ball.
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Hmmm. Shutting down power running? Not sure I agree with this, unless you are making a subtle difference between a rushing attack out of the spread vs a more conventional rushing attack.

I think our defense matches up well against a passing team (Tech), or a team that relies on a playmaker that LJ can help shut down (Iowa, OSU). A team that is balanced and can effectively run the football has caused problems.

MU and Baylor really ran wild on us. I am encouraged that we will do better against KSU, but I don't think we are very stout against the run. KSU will probably get 24 points. The key is that our offense needs to sustain drives, protect the football, and find a way to get to 28. I like 28-24, ISU victory.
 
KSU may have a better rush defense, but ISU ranks higher in rushing offense, passing offense, and total offense. ISU actually ranks better than KSU in most statistical categories.
2011 Conference Only Football Statistics - Big 12 Conference - Official Athletic Site

After looking at those, it kind of makes one wonder how KSU has a better record than we do. The only thing I can see as a differentiator is Klein who has been kind of an x-factor for them, but we now have Barnett on our side so I see that as an equalizer. I really expect it to be a good game.
 
d4nim4l said:
Kansas State ranks 27th in rush defense. I think it's pretty clear which team this would favor, especially if the wind picks up.
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"If the wind picks up"....


Have you ever been in that so called stadium in November???


I guarantee you that the wind will be roaring through that stadium from the North and will impact the game....


When the weather gets bad the team that can RUN the ball the best will win every game....


I hope this is NOT gonna be another of those blowout games by KState....
 
I think our D is a good rush defense when they aren't gameplanning for a spread offense like Baylors. We know KSU is gonna run the ball. Time for Matty T to have a huge game.
 
Mycology said:
Tiller, eh? :jimlad:
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Barnett, not Tiller.
 
Is there run defense so good becasuse everyone throws on them? Was thinking their pass defense was very weak. Or is their run defense so good that everyone is forced to pass it? KSU usually likes low scoring, slow, boring games (UI style). I think we match up with them well, but have had trouble at their venue.
 
Another weather thread? It boggles my mind how some feel ISU needs bad weather for an advantage. Like what did it do for us last week - keep the game from being a "blow out" ?
 
CycloneWarning said:
Hmmm. Shutting down power running? Not sure I agree with this, unless you are making a subtle difference between a rushing attack out of the spread vs a more conventional rushing attack.

I think our defense matches up well against a passing team (Tech), or a team that relies on a playmaker that LJ can help shut down (Iowa, OSU). A team that is balanced and can effectively run the football has caused problems.

MU and Baylor really ran wild on us. I am encouraged that we will do better against KSU, but I don't think we are very stout against the run. KSU will probably get 24 points. The key is that our offense needs to sustain drives, protect the football, and find a way to get to 28. I like 28-24, ISU victory.
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And I'd hardly call either of those two teams "power running" teams. They're both spread "zone-read" style (whether they actually run the zone read or not) type of running games. The difference being when we throw Woody in there we add a power component to it.
 
Updated NWS forecast for Manhattan (doesn't look good).

Friday Night: A chance of rain or freezing rain. Mostly cloudy, with a low around 31. Chance of precipitation is 50%.

Saturday: Rain likely. Cloudy, with a high near 40. Chance of precipitation is 60%.

Saturday Night: A chance of rain and snow. Mostly cloudy, with a low around 25. Chance of precipitation is 50%.

 
abcguyks said:
KSU may have a better rush defense, but ISU ranks higher in rushing offense, passing offense, and total offense. ISU actually ranks better than KSU in most statistical categories.
2011 Conference Only Football Statistics - Big 12 Conference - Official Athletic Site

After looking at those, it kind of makes one wonder how KSU has a better record than we do. The only thing I can see as a differentiator is Klein who has been kind of an x-factor for them, but we now have Barnett on our side so I see that as an equalizer. I really expect it to be a good game.
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I think they have roughly 1/2 the number of turnovers we do on the season. That probably has something to do with it.
 
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