Kobe may be the best ever...

Kobe is a huge ballhog. And he never trusts his team mates when he needs to. I would hate to play on Kobes team especially after reading Paul shirleys book about how big of a jerk he is
 
Kobe is an all-star NBA player. Paul Shirley told it how it is. I'm sure Jordan wasn't the friendliest of teammates ever, not that I'm comparing the two. Kobe isn't even in his league. He might be the best ever from 2005-2008; along with KG, LeBron, and Steve Nash....
 
He's disappeared at times in this series. I keep waiting for him to put this team on his back and carry them to a win like Lebron did against the Pistons last year. He's got a half of basketball to do it.
 
To those that say Kobe is the best ever (there are a few that say that)...

I think Kobe has some great talents but to say he's even in the caliber of MJ at any point of his career (pre-retirement comeback) is a joke. MJ was a better team player, better clutch player, better defender and just an incredible all around ambassador for everything sports.

Kobe is a great player in any stretch of the imagination but he's selfish, childish, complains a lot and still hasn't figured out how to truly lead his team. He does a lot good but he misses on several marks.

Kobe might be the best player at this point in time but there are others I'd much rather pull for and have on my team. KG, Lebron, etc, etc...
 
Kobe is a great player, but with MJ you knew he would do whatever he could to win, and then some. He had the will to win flat out.

Go Celtics!
 
Obviously there's a little sarcasm in my statement. It sure seems like all series long though, kobe has come out on fire. Then, pretty much disappeared.

Here he is. The biggest game of his life to this point. Elimination game. 2nd quarter stats.

0-4 from the field
3-3 from the line (all on technical foul free throws)
2 TO
0 Assists
0 Steals
1 Rebound

In the meantime, Boston takes the 2nd quarter, 34-15...
 
Kobe is a great baller but MJ was a great player and finisher.

The ability to finish and take over is what makes somebody move from being great to being legendary. Kobe is great, MJ is legendary.

MJ and Woods are perfect examples of why being the best isn't enough, being the best at the right time is what matters.
 
Kobe is a great baller but MJ was a great player and finisher.

The ability to finish and take over is what makes somebody move from being great to being legendary. Kobe is great, MJ is legendary.

MJ and Woods are perfect examples of why being the best isn't enough, being the best at the right time is what matters.

But, c'mon Jeremy. kobe kisses his kids at halftime. That HAS to make him a tougher competitor than Jordan. Doesn't it? :biggrin:
 
But, c'mon Jeremy. kobe kisses his kids at halftime. That HAS to make him a tougher competitor than Jordan. Doesn't it? :biggrin:

Yeah that makes me laugh every time they show it and you get a glimpse of the $8 million ring that he bought his wife after the big rape lawsuit. Nothing says I love you like hush money:no:
 
Couple things:

I am a huge Kobe fan. Huge. But I am sick of him this series. Step up man. You look like a different player. And I don't want to hear how it's the C's defense. How can he score so much in the first quarters and than not even shoot in the first half. If he does not shoot 20 times in the second half than I will be very disappointed. Also with Boston in the bonus he never took it to the lane!!! WTF?

Kobe (minus this series) is always at his best in the 4th quarter. Look at the Spurs series and even game 3 of this series. He is a gamer and knows how to take over.

Cyclonedefender is wrong and ignorant in claiming that Kobe is a ballhog. IMO he needs to shoot more. MJ averaged 5 more attempts a game than Kobe. That is a lot more shots, but yet Kobe is a ball hog? Give me a break.

I agree with Jeremy that Kobe still has learned how to lead a team. He forces it to much. It just doesn't come natural to him. I would take him in a heartbeat over KG though. Kobe is learning but right now he needs to not worry about being a great teammate and needs to worry about winning a basketball game
 
Also everybody needs to get off MJ! Great ambassador for the game Jeremy? He had/has a horrible gambling problem, had several mistresses, and was no nicer to his teammates than Kobe is. Michael was better but let's not make him out to be some saint and Kobe to be the devil.
 
Where is kobe? Taking a sauna? Flipping the refs? Blaming Odoms? Just sulking? Not Michael Jordan. Here was his chance and he called in sick. He must be injured. His pinky is misaligned.
 
I think the reason people have a higher overall opinion of MJ is because of how he acted on the court. He would yell sometimes and complain sometimes but overall he just stepped up on the other end of the court if he felt something didn't go his way. Instead of always belittling everybody, he took his game to the next level.

Kobe is great at what he does, and I agree that he could shoot a few more shots at times, but overall he just needs to learn how to manage the team and step up at the right time consistently.

But overall for this year, I think the Lakers were just the younger and more thrown together teams. Once they have some more experience and learn to work together a little more, they will be a force next year and for the next couple.
 
Also everybody needs to get off MJ! Great ambassador for the game Jeremy? He had/has a horrible gambling problem, had several mistresses, and was no nicer to his teammates than Kobe is. Michael was better but let's not make him out to be some saint and Kobe to be the devil.

No doubt about that. On court, MJ was great. Off-court... not so much...
 
I think the reason people have a higher overall opinion of MJ is because of how he acted on the court. He would yell sometimes and complain sometimes but overall he just stepped up on the other end of the court if he felt something didn't go his way. Instead of always belittling everybody, he took his game to the next level.

Kobe is great at what he does, and I agree that he could shoot a few more shots at times, but overall he just needs to learn how to manage the team and step up at the right time consistently.

But overall for this year, I think the Lakers were just the younger and more thrown together teams. Once they have some more experience and learn to work together a little more, they will be a force next year and for the next couple.

You must have missed Jordan's final two years - with the Wizards. That was awful. It didn't appear that he was well-respected by his teammates either.
 

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