Just thinking about what we could do to stop Embiid. Why not play Gibson and Edoise a bunch in the first half and just foul the crap out of him? Who cares if they foul out, and Embiid gets a bit upset at times. Maybe get him frustrated and in foul trouble. Gladly foul out gibson and edoise in first half to get 3 on Embiid early. Thoughts?
Kansas Game Plan
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In general putting good teams at the line for a bunch of free throws is a quick way to get absolutely buried.
CycloneErik
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hit 3's, lots and lots of them, by my math Embiid's 2's made inside will not offset an equal number of 3's made by ISU.
Somebody might wanna check my numbers for me.
Seriously, I think we play better this game than at Hilton, no pressure, we are expected to lose, just play free and easy and lets see what happens.
Somebody might wanna check my numbers for me.
Seriously, I think we play better this game than at Hilton, no pressure, we are expected to lose, just play free and easy and lets see what happens.
Thanks for talking about the game. The "we don't boo" thread is currently the dumbest thread on the board.
You have the right idea, but we don't need to foul him every time. He's not THAT big of an offensive threat. I do agree we need to see Edozie or Gibson early and often. I prefer Edozie as I think he's closer to Embiid athletically. We need to keep them off the offensive glass.
Hopefully Niang can hit some early threes, so Embiid isn't as comfortable sitting back on the arc. Georges and Kane need to drive with the intent to kick it out. We will not get calls on contested layups.
You have the right idea, but we don't need to foul him every time. He's not THAT big of an offensive threat. I do agree we need to see Edozie or Gibson early and often. I prefer Edozie as I think he's closer to Embiid athletically. We need to keep them off the offensive glass.
Hopefully Niang can hit some early threes, so Embiid isn't as comfortable sitting back on the arc. Georges and Kane need to drive with the intent to kick it out. We will not get calls on contested layups.
No no..see you still call it Hack-a-Shaq. That's the brilliant part! Bill Self's toupee will never see it coming!
we have to make shots, plain and simple and limit turnovers. very important to do both to limit ku in transition, make them play half court. their bigs turned it over a bunch with our defensive strategy in Ames, so we'll see if they adjust to that. Tharpe has been playing really well lately, need to to keep him down. Kansas is the best team in the country, IMO.
Needless fouls, no, but I would entertain the thought of giving Percy and Edozie some minutes to keep bigs fresh and out of foul trouble, and to add a little size and resistance inside. Plus, starters may have a little more freedom to challenge early in the game without worrying about foul difficulty — that could help avoid falling in a deep hole early (which, at KU, is typically disastrous)
I still feel like maybe they could have gotten more time earlier in the season, but it might have cost a couple of close wins.
I still feel like maybe they could have gotten more time earlier in the season, but it might have cost a couple of close wins.
Hitting 3s isn't as dependent on the KU refs as a lot of other strategies.
*official disclaimer that I'm not talking about 3s during a dead ball which are 100% dependent on KU refs
CycloneErik
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Need to rebound the damn ball, that should be the only strategy. If we do that and hit our shots we have a good chance to get a W. If we go down there playing like we did against KU the last time we'll lose by 20+.
I think when KU came to Hilton all the focus was on us because KU was in a slump at that time. So all the media attention was focused on us winning etc. Now that KU is looking better we are the underdog which is where we thrive. Like jahfg said Niang needs to drop a few 3s to force Embiid to play tighter on him around the arc which would leave the lane open for drives.
Also, keep the ball moving. That extra pass may be enough to get an even better look at a shot. Don't settle on one shot each time down the floor. Swing the ball around and find the open man. Keep KU on their toes and running to catch up to the ball. A tired KU defense is a win for us.
Also, keep the ball moving. That extra pass may be enough to get an even better look at a shot. Don't settle on one shot each time down the floor. Swing the ball around and find the open man. Keep KU on their toes and running to catch up to the ball. A tired KU defense is a win for us.
I really really hope that this has been hammered home into our guys' heads. We cannot have a strategy of just charging at the basket and thinking we are going to get to the free throw line.
The issue with bringing Percy or Edozie in is they give you nothing on the offensive end. That allows Embiid to just sit in the lane, taking away any cutting and driving lanes.
Fred has shown the blueprint the last two years for beating Kansas: Georges and Melvin must hit long 2's and 3's to pull the bigs away from the basket, limit turnovers and try to force turnovers on the defensive end for transition buckets.
Iowa State isn't going to match up with the size of Kansas. There's no reason to change your offensive identity to try to shut down the potential #1 NBA pick. Let him get his 15 points, keep Georges out of foul trouble and make open shots. Should be that easy to just waltz into Phog Allen..
Fred has shown the blueprint the last two years for beating Kansas: Georges and Melvin must hit long 2's and 3's to pull the bigs away from the basket, limit turnovers and try to force turnovers on the defensive end for transition buckets.
Iowa State isn't going to match up with the size of Kansas. There's no reason to change your offensive identity to try to shut down the potential #1 NBA pick. Let him get his 15 points, keep Georges out of foul trouble and make open shots. Should be that easy to just waltz into Phog Allen..
I am surprised it hasn't carried over here yet. The title of the thread does have Kansas in it.
In all honesty the way KU has been playing in the games other than ours scares me more than how they played against us. If we play the same game but make our open looks I think we are a good enough team to win. I don't think they will turn the ball over as much but I also don't think Tharpe will shoot as well as he did in Ames. We need to keep the pressure on Black to make sure he is in foul trouble, he can kill us on the boards but cant guard Georges on the perimeter. I am hoping we can get Embiid in some foul trouble or get in his head a bit as he has shown that he can lose his cool.
I'm pretty confident that we will win if we score more points than Kansas. That's the game plan.