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ISU to the Big 11???

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I just went home to eat lunch and turned on ESPN while I was there. College Football Live was on and they were discussing the possibility of the Big 11 adding another team so that they could have a conference title game. ND was of course the obvious choice, but will never happen. Teams that were mentioned as possible choices included ISU, Colorado, Syracuse, Rugers and Pitt. Would JP even consider a move to the Big 11. It would definitely make the Big 11 TV package much easier for all of us to swallow!!! I don't know about the rest of you, but I was SHOCKED to hear that we were even on the list of possible teams. Seems unlikely to happen to me, but one never knows. It would put us on TV every Saturday, which would be a big plus?
 
This was discussed several months ago. It would be HUGE for ISU, as much as people might hate being in the same conference as EIU, the Big Ten has a superior draw due to the regions and Cities that they lie in.

That being said, I can't see the Big Ten ever asking ISU because we would not bring any additional TV revenue.

Schools like Rutgers and Syracuse bring in a large following from a location that the Big Ten currently does not have a team.

Rutger - the entire New Jersey area as well as NYC.
Syracuse - the Syracuse, Buffalo, Rochester areas as well as NYC.

I could even see them bringing in Louisville due to their bball success and recent fball success.
 
It would never happen, but it's something for the talking heads to discuss in the offseason.
 
I don't know if it's just me but, I don't get excited thinking about playing Northwestern, Illinois, Indiana, Minnesota. I know we were not great last year, but that's like playing 4 Baylor type caliber teams a year.

Growing up Big 8, I love watching us compete against KU, KSU, CU, OSU.... I think it would take a long time to get used to.

The only upside, besides the money, would be we have a fresh start. Our record would be 0-0 in the Big 11 with our programs on the rise.
 
psycln11 said:
This was discussed several months ago. It would be HUGE for ISU, as much as people might hate being in the same conference as EIU, the Big Ten has a superior draw due to the regions and Cities that they lie in.

That being said, I can't see the Big Ten ever asking ISU because we would not bring any additional TV revenue.

Schools like Rutgers and Syracuse bring in a large following from a location that the Big Ten currently does not have a team.

Rutger - the entire New Jersey area as well as NYC.
Syracuse - the Syracuse, Buffalo, Rochester areas as well as NYC.

I could even see them bringing in Louisville due to their bball success and recent fball success.
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NYC is pretty meaningless when it comes to college athletics. They don't care about college athletics there. Any new member to the Big 10 would have to meet academic requirements too and Notre Dame(maybe Louisville) doesn't meet them. Rutgers is always the "chic" name but ISU and Mizzou are as likely imo.
 
ISUonthemove said:
I don't know if it's just me but, I don't get excited thinking about playing Northwestern, Illinois, Indiana, Minnesota. I know we were not great last year, but that's like playing 4 Baylor type caliber teams a year.

Growing up Big 8, I love watching us compete against KU, KSU, CU, OSU.... I think it would take a long time to get used to.

The only upside, besides the money, would be we have a fresh start. Our record would be 0-0 in the Big 11 with our programs on the rise.
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The real upside is being able to recruit in our natural recruiting territory(Iowa, Wisconsin, Illinois, Minnesota) and all the extra money that would be available. This would be a huge positive for ISU if we could ever make it happen.
 
Screw the money. I'd vomit if i was in the Big 11. Violently. Its a lot more fun (for me) to wish the worst on the hogeyes and the big 11.

Yick.
 
It'll never happen. As it has been mentioned, ISU offers nothing for the Big 10 with Iowa already in it. It's all about the TV $$$$ revenue. Especially with the Big 10 network starting up, they'd want to get a new market.
 
ISUonthemove said:
I don't know if it's just me but, I don't get excited thinking about playing Northwestern, Illinois, Indiana, Minnesota. I know we were not great last year, but that's like playing 4 Baylor type caliber teams a year.
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Aren't we a baylor caliber program right now? I hope we are better soon, but lets face it, Baylor beat us last time we played.
 
CyFarmer said:
NYC is pretty meaningless when it comes to college athletics. They don't care about college athletics there. Any new member to the Big 10 would have to meet academic requirements too and Notre Dame(maybe Louisville) doesn't meet them. Rutgers is always the "chic" name but ISU and Mizzou are as likely imo.
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what do you mean "Notre Dame doesn't meet them." Regarding what academic requirements? Last I checked, ND was a fairly prestigious school academically.

Considering population, tv markets etc.. the Big 11 will be looking east more likely than west... and it won't be ISU... if any Big 12 school it would be Mizzou with STL and KC as decent tv markets.

I agree that the Big 10 bottom feeders aren't appealing to play, but I do think Illinois will be back with their recruiting efforts recently (although the question is if Zook can coach at all.) So every conference is going to have these teams, and some may look at ISU as being one of those in the Big 12 now.
 
frontrangeclone said:
what do you mean "Notre Dame doesn't meet them." Regarding what academic requirements? Last I checked, ND was a fairly prestigious school academically.

Considering population, tv markets etc.. the Big 11 will be looking east more likely than west... and it won't be ISU... if any Big 12 school it would be Mizzou with STL and KC as decent tv markets.

I agree that the Big 10 bottom feeders aren't appealing to play, but I do think Illinois will be back with their recruiting efforts recently (although the question is if Zook can coach at all.) So every conference is going to have these teams, and some may look at ISU as being one of those in the Big 12 now.
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I've talked to some Hawk fan co-workers and they say Notre Dame's not a bona fide "research" institution. Big11 schools have to be research institutions, evidently that's a non-negotiable issue. As far as academic prestige goes, ND is of course towards the top in the nation, there's no denying that.

ISU will not go to the Big 11, my best guess is Rutgers with Syracuse and Louisville a close second and third.
 
I agree with those who think it would be Syracuse. If the Big Ten were to add a twelfth member, and divide the conference into two portions, it'd look a little like this:

Big Ten East
Michigan
Ohio State
Penn State
Michigan State
Syracuse?
Indiana

Big Ten West
Iowa
Wisconsin
Illinois
Minnesota
Northwestern
Purdue

EDIT: Of course, the smart thing to do is to do away with divisions and let the top two teams duke it out for the conference championship...
 
For one I wish it would happen, the BIG 11 West would probably be Minn, IA, Wis, Northwestern, Ill, and IA St. That is not an intimidating schedule.

Plus it would be great to see ISU play in teh Big House, the Horseshoe, and Happey Valley....way more fun that going to anywhere in the big 12.

And JP coming from the Big 11, would probably be all for it - he might have already started lobbying for it.

The one item that is going to hold ISU back would be the academic programs.
 
AirWalke said:
I agree with those who think it would be Syracuse. If the Big Ten were to add a twelfth member, and divide the conference into two portions, it'd look a little like this:

Big Ten East
Michigan
Ohio State
Penn State
Michigan State
Syracuse?
Indiana

Big Ten West
Iowa
Wisconsin
Illinois
Minnesota
Northwestern
Purdue

EDIT: Of course, the smart thing to do is to do away with divisions and let the top two teams duke it out for the conference championship...
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I believe Jon Miller stated yesterday that he believed that they would split UM and OSU, therefore, placing UM in the west and Purdue in the east. The rest of your breakdown is correct.
 
erikbj said:
For one I wish it would happen, the BIG 11 West would probably be Minn, IA, Wis, Northwestern, Ill, and IA St. That is not an intimidating schedule.

Plus it would be great to see ISU play in teh Big House, the Horseshoe, and Happey Valley....way more fun that going to anywhere in the big 12.

And JP coming from the Big 11, would probably be all for it - he might have already started lobbying for it.

The one item that is going to hold ISU back would be the academic programs.
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ISU's academics would not hold it back at all. What holds us back is the number of television sets available.
 
psycln11 said:
I believe Jon Miller stated yesterday that he believed that they would split UM and OSU, therefore, placing UM in the west and Purdue in the east. The rest of your breakdown is correct.
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You're right, I looked at that proposed Big Ten East after my post and thought it was a bit top-heavy for football.
 
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