Is your trust in CMC lost to fix this offense in 2023 and beyond?

[FeedBreece]

I’m feeling pretty discouraged about the direction things are heading. I don’t see a willingness to change. This is a common symptom of coaches who eventually lose their jobs. (Not saying Campbell will here anytime soon, but it’s similar)

It’s reminding me a lot of Matt Nagy in Chicago. He flourished early on in his tenure. But he refused to change when opposing teams caught on to some more predictable tendencies. It was “his way or the highway” and the Bears floundered thanks to it.

I don’t get the impression Campbell is willing to change how he runs things. I really don’t. This is what the greatest coaches like Saban and Gundy always recognize. It just feels like I’m bracing for the exact same staff and exact same boneheaded offensive schemes to return next year. It’s going to be painful to watch if this is what continues.

 

[CloneJD]

Holy **** stop

 

[Tri4Cy]

No.

 

[Al_4_State]

I’m not really taking a stance now.

If he doesn’t make off season changes, I’ll lose faith. For now, I trust his judgment and expect change.

 

[Rabbuk]

If the o line is horrendous again next year and we continue to just forfeit 4th and shorts next year yes.

 

[isutrevman]

No, because we've had good offenses for the past 4 years.

I'd like to see him make a change at O-Line coach at a minimum. I'd be fine with Manning being shown the door too, but will be OK if he returns.

 

[BCClone]

Let’s discuss this after the season, we have no idea what Matt is planning now. He’s probably focused on this Saturday right now.

 

[bawbie]

lol

 

[PSYclone22]

Let's talk after the the third game or so next year after giving CMC an offseason to deal with his first bit of turbulence.

/thread

 

[FeedBreece]

I’m not really taking a stance now.

If he doesn’t make off season changes, I’ll lose faith. For now, I trust his judgment and expect change.

No changes have been made in years. It’s been the exact same staff. I hope changes are made, but I don’t get any indication Manning will go anywhere.

No, because we've had good offenses for the past 4 years.

I'd like to see him make a change at O-Line coach at a minimum. I'd be fine with Manning being shown the door too, but will be OK if he returns.

Just feels like we get told every offseason that the line has been fixed. And every year we get proven yet again that nothing was fixed. It’s been progressively worse.

If significant moves are made in the staff this year, I’m willing to feel differently on this.

 

[CycloneErik]

No. He'll get his chance to, but I'll believe it when I see it.

 

[LtRaczack]

No changes have been made in years. It’s been the exact same staff. I hope changes are made, but I don’t get any indication Manning will go anywhere.

Just feels like we get told every offseason that the line has been fixed. And every year we get proven yet again that nothing was fixed. It’s been progressively worse.

If significant moves are made in the staff this year, I’m willing to feel differently on this.

You are violating the first commandment of Cyclone Fanatic.

 

[Cyinthenorth]

I personally have decided I would give Campbell this offseason and next season to right the ship. He's developed at least that much goodwill during his tenure so far. If no real changes get announced in the offseason, and we're right back where were are now in 12 months, I'll have lost hope that he can 'right the ship'.

 

[quasistellar]

Not until we see what happens this offseason. The excuses that were there before aren't there anymore. Of course, now there's the excuse of "losing so much talent", but even that can't cover up the dumpster fire OL performances, since it's all the same guys.

 

[Trice]

There are two separate questions: will he make changes, and will they work?

To the first...I can't see how he doesn't at this point. And it's not as if he is so stubborn he's incapable of it. He totally changed up his defense on the fly, and it worked so well it changed the entire sport. He also recognized the S&C program needed to improve and made a change.

Will it work? He certainly deserves the time and space to try. But he's also had some issues that have plagued this teams for most of his tenure: abysmal special teams, poor OL play, silly execution mistakes, and slow starts, to name a few. He's been unable to solve those.

 

[LtRaczack]

Not until we see what happens this offseason. The excuses that were there before aren't there anymore. Of course, now there's the excuse of "losing so much talent", but even that can't cover up the dumpster fire OL performances, since it's all the same guys.

Never underestimate the ability of innovation when it comes to generating new explanations for performance shortfalls.

 

[joefrog]

We'll see.

No firings after the end of the season?

Nope, not gonna see any improvement.

Teams figured CampbellBall out last year.

They have tons of data on ISU, know our tendencies, and can recognize plays from personnel and formation.

We're a dream to gameplan against as a defensive coordinator.

ISU gets a big play, 20 plus yards. Next play? LOL. Slow it down, then do a run. Like 90% of the time.

I feel awful for Dekkers, he's got talent.

This team is poorly coached on offense, and has been since CMC arrived. False starts, bad execution, predictable playcalling, poor line play.

We should be getting ready to play in our 3rd straight CCG with the talent we have had and where the conference is talent wise.

 

[ClonesFTW]

I think by giving his current guys the full season to attempt to fix issues will make it easier for him to make moves this off season as we saw no improvement. If we line up for our first game next year with the same staff at that point speculation would be fair.

 

[CoachHines3]

I’m feeling pretty discouraged about the direction things are heading. I don’t see a willingness to change. This is a common symptom of coaches who eventually lose their jobs. (Not saying Campbell will here anytime soon, but it’s similar)

It’s reminding me a lot of Matt Nagy in Chicago. He flourished early on in his tenure. But he refused to change when opposing teams caught on to some more predictable tendencies. It was “his way or the highway” and the Bears floundered thanks to it.

I don’t get the impression Campbell is willing to change how he runs things. I really don’t. This is what the greatest coaches like Saban and Gundy always recognize. It just feels like I’m bracing for the exact same staff and exact same boneheaded offensive schemes to return next year. It’s going to be painful to watch if this is what continues.

you realize alot of people projected us to go 5-7 or 6-6 this year, right?

 

[LAClone]

I've seen other head coaches make more corrections at half time than I've seen Saint Matthew make 10 games into the season.