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ESPN's Power Ranking a crock

Not sure what numbers they use to come up with their "Power" rankings.... but they're obviously garbage. Iowa is an average team anyway you look at it. They could be decent, but you just have no idea because they haven't beaten a single team that even has a pulse yet..... and have lost to a bad Purdue team and an unproven NW team.
 
Having BYU ahead of us after looking awful against an equally over-rated mid-major is a travesty. They called the BYU - CC game the game of the year...
 
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clonedude said:
Not sure what numbers they use to come up with their "Power" rankings.... but they're obviously garbage. Iowa is an average team anyway you look at it. They could be decent, but you just have no idea because they haven't beaten a single team that even has a pulse yet..... and have lost to a bad Purdue team and an unproven NW team.
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I'm seeing ISU at 12 and Iowa at 18...but the big joke is BYU still in front of ISU. It's not BYU's fault but they need to run that schedule to be ranked in front of a team that goes 8-1 in the Big 12. Any "ranking" loses all credibility for saying 8-1 Big 12 season is less impressive than 9-1 with BYU's schedule.

You thought maybe Iowa's big "prove it" win could be Wisconsin but now Wisc is only a soft 2-2 with all the on field experience a team typically has on Oct 1st.

If they lose to Wisconsin I'm not sure how there's a rational for them to be top 25 at 5-3 without quality wins and two non-ranked losses.
 
...Iowa is 18 in the power rankings. Looks like you're looking at FPI, which is just a computer program. Texas is still ahead of us, so there's a standard ESPN 1.25 factor for name recognition.

That said the B10 schedules are ******* joke this year. There's 4, maybe 5 good teams (OSU, IU, NW, Iowa and maybe Wisconsin), but go look at how many of them have played each other. Each have played 1, maybe two of the others. Their 14 team league with 8 ******* teams is a joke.

Why does OSU get a pass that they would for sure beat 3-4 more good teams that they haven't played this year? I would rather see all ACC and SEC teams in it this year (maybe 3 SEC) vs. rewarding OSU for their mid-major schedule (currently ranked in the 70s).
 
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Isn't this power rankings more of an analytical rating?
 
19clone91 said:
Having BYU ahead of us after looking awful against an equally over-rated mid-major is a travesty. They called the BYU - CC game the game of the year...
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BYU and Coastal have undeniably soft schedules. BYU by no fault of their own. Coastal gets credit that they won close games, but it's only 2 quality wins. Having a one loss BYU in front of a team that is 8-1 in the Big 12 is utter nonsense.

Liberty is a little complex to judge. They did go 2-1 in ACC road games but the three ACC opponents haven't really done anything. I also have some academic moral qualms with using the NCAA FBS football marketing machine to elevate Liberty in a way that makes it seem like it's the same type of institution as say Iowa State and even Baylor. A ranked football team does that like nothing else.
 
DurangoCy said:
...Iowa is 18 in the power rankings. Looks like you're looking at FPI, which is just a computer program. Texas is still ahead of us, so there's a standard ESPN 1.25 factor for name recognition.

That said the B10 schedules are ******* joke this year. There's 4, maybe 5 good teams (OSU, IU, NW, Iowa and maybe Wisconsin), but go look at how many of them have played each other. Each have played 1, maybe two of the others. Their 14 team league with 8 ******* teams is a joke.

Why does OSU get a pass that they would for sure beat 3-4 more good teams that they haven't played this year? I would rather see all ACC and SEC teams in it this year (maybe 3 SEC) vs. rewarding OSU for their mid-major schedule (currently ranked in the 70s).
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Wisconsin looked good on paper to start the year but at just 2-2 and how infrequently they play they're in the "nobody knows" category more than any other team except maybe some of the Pac teams.

Let us all remember that the sports media of the world had to rank Penn State #8 for weeks before they even played a game. Pumping up the Big Ten is an industry.
 
DurangoCy said:
...Iowa is 18 in the power rankings. Looks like you're looking at FPI, which is just a computer program. Texas is still ahead of us, so there's a standard ESPN 1.25 factor for name recognition.

That said the B10 schedules are ******* joke this year. There's 4, maybe 5 good teams (OSU, IU, NW, Iowa and maybe Wisconsin), but go look at how many of them have played each other. Each have played 1, maybe two of the others. Their 14 team league with 8 ******* teams is a joke.

Why does OSU get a pass that they would for sure beat 3-4 more good teams that they haven't played this year? I would rather see all ACC and SEC teams in it this year (maybe 3 SEC) vs. rewarding OSU for their mid-major schedule (currently ranked in the 70s).
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This is me too.

When I argue against Ohio State making the playoff, I'm not saying ISU or OU or Coastal or Cincy automatically deserves to be in.

All ACC/SEC would make much more sense than putting Ohio State in based on a 7 point Indiana win and virtually no other "data points".

The committee has clearly said 12 data points wasn't enough. The entire Big Ten and entire Pac 12 should be automatically eliminated this year for only having half of the data points the committee said wasn't good enough a few years ago.
 
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HFCS said:
BYU and Coastal have undeniably soft schedules. BYU by no fault of their own. Coastal gets credit that they won close games, but it's only 2 quality wins. Having a one loss BYU in front of a team that is 8-1 in the Big 12 is utter nonsense.

Liberty is a little complex to judge. They did go 2-1 in ACC road games but the three ACC opponents haven't really done anything. I also have some academic moral qualms with using the NCAA FBS football marketing machine to elevate Liberty in a way that makes it seem like it's the same type of institution as say Iowa State and even Baylor. A ranked football team does that like nothing else.
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I’m fine with Coastal if someone wants to rank them in front of us in a power ranking and any ranking. They beat that team that embarrassed us at home (Louisiana) and may do it again in their title game. They are undefeated too and have a win against a decent App. State team to boot along with BYU.

I don’t know if I would put Coastal in front of us but not going to be in an uproar if someone wants to do it.
 
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Who care's beat OU and we likely go to the Cotton Bowl to play TAM, ESPN has been a joke for over a decade.
 
jctisu said:
I’m fine with Coastal if someone wants to rank them in front of us in a power ranking and any ranking. They beat that team that embarrassed us at home (Louisiana) and may do it again in their title game. They are undefeated too and have a win against a decent App. State team to boot along with BYU.

I don’t know if I would put Coastal in front of us but not going to be in an uproar if someone wants to do it.
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I feel like Louisiana is a Baylor/Texas Tech/K-State quality team that we played horribly against in game one. If Louisiana played one of those teams, I think the Ragin' Cajuns would be favored by like 4 points.
 
ESPN’s FPI is suspect AF. Let’s start with how they pimped Wisconsin for a month to be the #4 team in CFP.
 
This is the FPI, which has ISU 12 and Iowa 13. It really really likes Wisconsin, Texas, Oregon, Penn State, and LSU. I'm shocked.

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2023 College Football Power Index - ESPN

View the 2023 College Football power index on ESPN. The FPI is the best predictor of a team's performance going forward for the rest of the season.
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You’d think a simple fix would be to eliminate preseason rankings based on reputation and previous season/returning players. Have all P5’s agree to a set number of weeks before teams are initially rated. Hell, wait until we’ll into conference games before teams are ranked.

What a huge advantage it is to “play yourself out” of the top 25 vs “play in”.
 
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