Quincy Miller's quote says nothing. A coach would be stupid not to tell him that he has to work on something. It's simple psychology.
Does Baylor Cheat?
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Quincy Miller's quote says nothing. A coach would be stupid not to tell him that he has to work on something. It's simple psychology.
I figured playing time was a given.
And are you really saying that the fact that the coach is positive is a reason that you are pulling these guys in? That seems like an awful simple strategy. If hard work and being positive were the keys to getting top 100 classes, it would be a lot easier for schools to rebound from coaching changes, especially at non blue blood schools.
Drew has a recruiting method. He recruits in a fashion that brings top 10 classes to a school with not a whole lot to offer compared to who he is competing against (no offense, really. I'm an ISU fan, we are in the same boat). All he has is himself and his recruiting technique and I'm just not sold that "being positive" and "working hard" is how he did it. Lots of coaches work hard and are positive.
It's not conspiratorial at all. They've never won the Big 12 and had little to no tradition before they started landing all world recruits. The school and town are not a huge draw to the average blue chippers either compared to some other destinations.
I wouldn't outright accuse them of cheating, but nobody with any sense would be surprised if something comes out at some point.
That statement says a lot. Isu hasn't had great success over the years, yet they still have fan support. How many people were at the game tonight? 1000? Ames high brought in more people when they played in Hilton. So what does Baylor have that helps them land the recruits that they do?
Royce was going to go to Kentucky until he freaked out about the plane ride. I imagine Waco would have caused a similar issue.
1. Play in Waco
2. Be Positive
3. ??????
4. Pull in Top Ten Recruits
I wonder what that curious Step 3 is.
You're right. It's not as easy as I made it sound in that post, but I don't feel like writing an essay and I'm about 99% sure you guys dont want to read an essay from a Baylor fan recounting the past 9 years of our basketball history.
In short, Drew plays a style of offensive basketball that is attractive to high-level recruits because he plays an isolation offense, much like the NBA plays. It's not the most successful system in college, but it preps guys well for the pros. He also allows his guys an almost unprecedented amount of offensive freedom. It leads to his style of offense being called "AAU ball", "streetball", and the like, but it's still attractive to those guys.
Couple that with the fact that Baylor is a unique institution in that it has remained true to its historical religious roots and that plays well to mommas in the Bible Belt, where we do most of our recruiting. Without fail, players leave our program and talk about how much of a family atmosphere it is. That kind of thing sells itself to kids who, sadly enough, come from broken family basckgrounds, in a lot of cases.
Maybe Drew is honest and the kids can see through the BS other coaches spew? Maybe a kid is just that much more comfortable with their coaches? Maybe some kids are only focused on how they relate to the staff and not how much tradition or fanbase a school has.
We didn't have NEAR the competition for Royce that Baylor had for their 2 top 10 players. Not a good comparison. I'm not saying Baylor is dirty...I'm just saying this isn't a great argument.
MAYYYYBE. but probably not. your a glass half-full kinda guy, and i can respect that. but baylor cheats.
I hear you on all that, and those are great positives to your program and I would expect those to be major points that you use to recruit players, it is just that the level of success you are having with those tactics seems much higher than you would expect when you are competing against Kentucky, KU, Texas, UNC, Duke, ect.
For example, Fred Hoiberg played in the NBA, was an NBA talent evaluater, is a very positive coach almost never losing his cool, gives his players great confidence and freedom to shoot and play loose, gave 4 or 5 kids second chances to play D1 ball, has some tradition with Hilton Magic to play on, ISU is 4th in the Big 12 in sending players to the NBA since the Big 12 began, ect and he can barely get top 40 recruits to listen to him, let alone commit.
Haha, on the Pat Knight article, context is your friend. Pat was talking about the Sutton family and how he didn't like going up against them. Courtney Linehan openly admitted she jumped to conclusions regarding his quote, was reprimanded by her editor, and issued a public apology on the Lubbock Avalanche blog the next day. I know this because I personally emailed her editor to ask for clarification. As far as winning goes, Pat Knight doesn't know anything about that, aside from what he watched Daddy do.
I think rhoads is a pretty relatable coach. We got our videos all over YouTube. Where are our blue-chippers?
Exactly. I'm not saying Baylor didn't have some things to put out there that would be attractive, I'm saying those things bring other schools top 50 classes, not top 10 classes.
