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CPRsavedMYlife

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Clayborn's comments about Iowa being the only team in the state were posted in the locker room, by a player that has not been named. This is not unexpected, but I'm glad to see that they are using it as motivation. I still don't think think ISU can pull off the game in Kinnick, but this will at least help make it interesting. GO CLONES!!!!

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As a poster on HN said, I would think a 35-3 sign would provide more motivation than AC's comments(especially when those comments were taken out of context). Still, I don't think there is a downside to providing some locker room motivation for your players. As long as you don't invest all your emotion into that one game.
 
Al_4_State said:
Sounds like the Hawks are. :yes:

Recently, there's a pretty good track record of whatever team has some player talk **** getting beat (see Jesse Smith last year and some Hawk player in 2007).
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I'm more interested in the feeling during game week. For the most part lately, if most of the public are thinking team A will win, Team B wins (or comes really close). I thought the fact that many were picking ISU to win that game last year had much more to do with motivating the players (not that they need a lot of extra motivation) as well as the fact that they layed a stink bomb in week 1. If I were an ISU fan I'd hope Iowa blows out Eastern Illinois.
 
burky247 said:
As a poster on HN said, I would think a 35-3 sign would provide more motivation than AC's comments(especially when those comments were taken out of context). Still, I don't think there is a downside to providing some locker room motivation for your players. As long as you don't invest all your emotion into that one game.
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How do you know that the quote was taken out of context?

Not trying to be confrontational, just asking.
 
burky247 said:
As a poster on HN said, I would think a 35-3 sign would provide more motivation than AC's comments(especially when those comments were taken out of context). Still, I don't think there is a downside to providing some locker room motivation for your players. As long as you don't invest all your emotion into that one game.
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I personally think that is a crock. It's not like players have a certain amount of "emotion" and can use it all at once. To me, that's just a hawkeye excuse for losing. "They were more up for the game". Funny, ISU has statistically done about the same in the game after iowa whether they win or lose. And "suprisingly", it has a lot to do with how good of a team they are playing the next week.

As for your 35-3 sign, I think that your HN poster is dead wrong. To me, Clayborns comments as written are demeaning the entire ISU FB program (not just the score of one game) and questioning the manhood of the ISU players. I'd be pretty ****** about those comments if I were an ISU FB player...basically some clown telling you that you're nothing.
 
Clark said:
I'm more interested in the feeling during game week. For the most part lately, if most of the public are thinking team A will win, Team B wins (or comes really close). I thought the fact that many were picking ISU to win that game last year had much more to do with motivating the players (not that they need a lot of extra motivation) as well as the fact that they layed a stink bomb in week 1. If I were an ISU fan I'd hope Iowa blows out Eastern Illinois.
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I've told a lot of people this. I'd like to see Iowa winning 40-0 at half time of that game.

I think the close game against UNI helped Iowa a ton.
 
CPRsavedMYlife said:
How do you know that the quote was taken out of context?

Not trying to be confrontational, just asking.
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Point taken. I really can't prove that and should have worded it differently. It's something I heard from someone who is pretty close with AC(NO NOT THAT CRAZY LOOKING STALKER LADY...I figured I would clarify that right away:smile:). He was referring to college football in Iowa and how people are nuts for it because of the lack of pro teams. I guess he said he's made that same reference 20 times and after a while you assume people know what you're talking about and you don't bother clarifying. I can understand that. AC is kind of soft spoken when it comes to the media anyway, so I doubt he tries to extend interviews.

Like I said, regardless of the intent, I think it's smart of ISU to exploit the comment.
 
burky247 said:
Point taken. I really can't prove that and should have worded it differently. It's something I heard from someone who is pretty close with AC(NO NOT THAT CRAZY LOOKING STALKER LADY...I figured I would clarify that right away:smile:). He was referring to college football in Iowa and how people are nuts for it because of the lack of pro teams. I guess he said he's made that same reference 20 times and after a while you assume people know what you're talking about and you don't bother clarifying. I can understand that. AC is kind of soft spoken when it comes to the media anyway, so I doubt he tries to extend interviews.

Like I said, regardless of the intent, I think it's smart of ISU to exploit the comment.
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Edit: Thanks for clarifying.

If anyone would know, it would be the crazy stalker lady. She probably knows AC better than AC. :smile:
 
burky247 said:
As a poster on HN said, I would think a 35-3 sign would provide more motivation than AC's comments(especially when those comments were taken out of context). Still, I don't think there is a downside to providing some locker room motivation for your players. As long as you don't invest all your emotion into that one game.
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I'm sure that the players are plenty motivated for the game based on how last year went.
 
Frak said:
I personally think that is a crock. It's not like players have a certain amount of "emotion" and can use it all at once. To me, that's just a hawkeye excuse for losing. "They were more up for the game". Funny, ISU has statistically done about the same in the game after iowa whether they win or lose. And "suprisingly", it has a lot to do with how good of a team they are playing the next week.

As for your 35-3 sign, I think that your HN poster is dead wrong. To me, Clayborns comments as written are demeaning the entire ISU FB program (not just the score of one game) and questioning the manhood of the ISU players. I'd be pretty ****** about those comments if I were an ISU FB player...basically some clown telling you that you're nothing.
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Man, what are you talking about? I'm not talking about using your emotion for one game. I'm talking about the season. If you put all of your emotion into winning the second game of the season, and you lose, that can be tough to bounce back from. I wasn't trying to make an excuse for Iowa losing.

As for your comments about AC, you literally have no idea what you are talking about. Seriously, "questioning the manhood of the ISU players"? Wow!
 
Honestly, I didn't have a problem with Clayborn's comments.

Right now, the Hawkeyes are the Yankees of Iowa. The Cyclones are the Mets.

They're the Lakers. We're the Clippers.
 
Clayborn is from Missouri. Outside of Iowa state lines, Iowa is the only recongnizable university for most.

Anytime I bring up Iowa State, most people think I'm talking about the Hawkeyes. Anytime I bring up Cyclones, people have no idea who or what I'm talking about.

Common conversation:
"so the Cyclones..."
"Who?"
"Iowa State."
"Um?"
"They play in the Big 12"
"Oh, so they play Texas?"
"ya"
Clayborn may honestly not know the Iowa State is a D-1 college. All he probably knows is that it's a team on Iowa's schedule, may not even know ISU is a rival. I'd guess the majority of college football fans couldn't tell you if ISU was D-1 or not.
 
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JMO, but if it takes a comment by Adrian Clayborn to fire you up, you've already lost.

Not literally, of course. I'm just saying it shouldn't take a supposedly classless comment to get your juices flowing. You've got problems if it does.
 
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DJKHawk said:
JMO, but if it takes a comment by Adrian Clayborn to fire you up, you've already lost.

Not literally, of course. I'm just saying it shouldn't take a supposedly classless comment to get your juices flowing. You've got problems if it does.
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You don't think that uofi used J. Smith's comments last year? Of course, the uofi players did. Give me a break!

I usually understand Jon Miller's point of view and, periodically, have defended it. But, not that I have a big problem with it, it seems lately, when I turn on KXNO in the morning, JM is trying to "justify" that uofi fan is better than ISU fan because (according to JM):
- ISU fan thinks that uofi players have more legal trouble that ISU players
- ISU fan treats uofi fan worse that uofi fan treats ISU fan
- ISU fan thinks that uofi fan didn't go to school at uofi
- ISU fan is worse than uofi fan because ISU fan doesn't realize that uofi fans are Iowans and, therefore, deserve ISU fans' respect
- Etc.
- Etc.
Not a big deal, but it is, not in-appropriately, slanted.

Now we get the "justification" that uofi player is better than ISU player because uofi player doeesn't need some flakey bulletin board material to get ready for the game. Again, give me a break. None of these supposed reasons of uofi "superiority" are unique to uofi. They apply to almost every D1 college/athlete in the country.

The only part of the arguement that I take offense is when non-uofi graduate slanders the academics of ISU (in my experience, uofi graduates don't question the validity of graduating from ISU or any D1 college). Flip all the sh** you want about athletics, that is what it is about. However, when the "tavern-hawk" tells me that ISU is Moo-U (especially after their beloved coach claims ANF) and calls it L'Ames, and rips on the lack of beauty at ISU (campus or co-eds), I take offense. As Jon likes to remind us ISU fans: we are all Iowans.
 
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