It's strange. Growing up in the 80's and 90's. I never thought I would see Michigan and Florida State both sooo low. I watched about 10 minutes of the florida State vs Louisville game and you could have played that game at Valley High School and I am not sure the stands would have still been full. It's was embarrassing for Florida State to play in front of such few fans. Michigan back in the day would have fired a coach for losing two games in a season. Let alone get hammered by Ohio State every year. Shoot Ohio State fired John Cooper even though he barely lost one game a year. His problem was he lost that one game against Michigan.
C-Willy's fighting Harbaughs are a fraud
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I'm rooting for Harbaugh to figure it out before the season is over. Otherwise I have to find a way to tolerate the "Campbell to Michigain" crap that some ******* like Herbstreit will inevitably start.
3 out of the 4 years Harbaugh has been at Michigan they have had 10 win seasons. I think it would be foolish for them to fire him after this season. I guess they would rather go back to the Rich Rod and Brady Hoke days.
They've feasted on a weak b1g. During that stretch, they haven't beaten anyone and they play a super weak non conference. Harbaugh owes his entire coaching career to Andrew Luck.
I saw the line and couldn't throw money on Wisconsin fast enough. Michigan is overrated every year.
Harbaugh has still had some solid wins at Michigan.
10-3 Northwestern
10-4 Florida
10-4 Colorado
11-3 Penn State
11-3 Wisconsin
9-5 Northwestern
9-4 Penn State
The positive for him is that he consistently beats the teams he should I guess. I think if you are in a position where you consistently win 10 games you still set yourself up for the occasional 12 win season where everything aligns.
Also, if he owes his entire career to Andrew Luck, who does he owe it to for his success in the NFL?
And he thinks Chryst isn't a good coach.Pretty eye opening article. Oh, please remember the B1G plays defense too
https://sports.yahoo.com/wisconsins...-michigan-exposes-jim-harbaugh-202230196.html
The glorious 4 year career? Where he left before he was going to get fired? Do you remember the drama around those 9ers teams? He destroyed it from the inside and then got out before it went to total ****. They just now recovered.
Yeah but if you look at those teams. They are not national title type teams. That is what is expected at Michigan. If we beat those teams at Iowa State we would all be dishing out high fives if we had a 3 loss year. At Michigan you are supposed to beat those teams and be mentioned in the same breath as Bama, Ohio State, and the the rest of the big dogs. Not just beat 10-3 and 10-4 teams.
That’s a stretch. Most coaches owe having elite success to having a great player like Luck.
This may be a down year for them, but not having a QB like the top teams has largely been the difference the past few years. At this point their evaluation and development at that position is clearly an issue. Imo they’ve picked the wrong guy a few times
I'm still a little skeptical of him but he's definitely making me feel wrong in that assessment.
I didn't understand the big hype about Michigan coming into the season. They lost a lot on defense if I remember correctly and they completely changed their offense. Plus, Shea Patterson is probably the most overrated QB in the country.
Well I guess that administration not being self aware of who they really are in this day and age is going to do themselves in like Nebraska. The last Michigan team that was a legitimate championship contender was 22 years ago.
Michigan has elite tastes on a hope to challenge for the conference title budget. I’m going up to Michigan later this year and I’m really interested to see what their facilities are like after being able to tour OSU facilities. OSU just seems to have so many structural advantages with being the only major conference team in the state and having a booming metropolis to lure kids too.
Michigan can compete financially and the appeal of CBus over AA resonates far greater for middle-management 30 year-olds than recruits.
I do agree that local talent per P5 is a big advantage for OSU, but Michigan and ND have been somewhat Ohio’s other P5s for decades.
Agreed. I think Michigan and Harbaugh are overrated as hell, but I really think Michigan is going to find itself at the same crossroads in November that Nebraska was at in 2003 before they fired Frank Solich. Michigan might need to accept that it isn't truly a national player anymore, or at least for the foreseeable future. It's Ohio State's league, with the West only having a shot to win it when Wisconsin has an occasional supercharged team. Firing the guy who consistently gets you 9-10 wins is unlikely to change that.
They watered down the big 10 so bad they can't really recruit to play against teams like Rutgers.