Brady Supposedly Destroyed Cell Phone

I really don't care anymore; this should have been 100% settled almost six months ago. I can't help but wonder if the NFL has let this drag out for so long so it would keep dominating headlines while the HOF keeps Junior Seau's family from speaking at his induction (a totally independent decision, I'm sure).
 
Take that "report" with a big ol' grain of salt as it came from Stephen A Smith. If it came from an even remotely credible source it'd be different, but this just looks like typical SAS bluster.
 
I really don't care anymore; this should have been 100% settled almost six months ago. I can't help but wonder if the NFL has let this drag out for so long so it would keep dominating headlines while the HOF keeps Junior Seau's family from speaking at his induction (a totally independent decision, I'm sure).

It could drag on for a while yet, too. If Brady's legal team files an injunction against any suspension (four games, two games; doesn't matter) then we're not going to hear the end of it for a long time.
 
Would you turn over your private cell phone to the NFL for any reason? I know I wouldn't.

But he didn't have to, at least not by law. And if that's the case then why would he destroy it? And even if he did destroy the phone, the records would still exist. This story makes no sense.
 
It could drag on for a while yet, too. If Brady's legal team files an injunction against any suspension (four games, two games; doesn't matter) then we're not going to hear the end of it for a long time.

that would be really dangerous for the patriots. If this thing drags on in court until December and he ends up missing a playoff game that would be disastrous.
 
I really don't care anymore; this should have been 100% settled almost six months ago. I can't help but wonder if the NFL has let this drag out for so long so it would keep dominating headlines while the HOF keeps Junior Seau's family from speaking at his induction (a totally independent decision, I'm sure).

As they should. The HOF ceremony isn't the time or place and it would be very unfair to his fellow nominees. They've got a concussion movie coming out in December that I'm sure will give issue plenty of recognition and they could probably do the talk show circuit at that time and reach bigger audiences.
 
But he didn't have to, at least not by law. And if that's the case then why would he destroy it? And even if he did destroy the phone, the records would still exist. This story makes no sense.

Well, a NY Post story citing that idiot gadfly from ESPN pretty much = no sense. :smile:
 
that would be really dangerous for the patriots. If this thing drags on in court until December and he ends up missing a playoff game that would be disastrous.

For this reason, I can't possibly see any good reason why the Pat's wouldn't just take the 4-game slap and be done with it. 4 games won't end their season. Losing a playoff game will.
 
As they should. The HOF ceremony isn't the time or place and it would be very unfair to his fellow nominees. They've got a concussion movie coming out in December that I'm sure will give issue plenty of recognition and they could probably do the talk show circuit at that time and reach bigger audiences.

Just as steroids are part of baseball's history (for better or worse), so are concussions in football. The HOF is a museum, and to pretend that this issue doesn't exist is a fool's errand. They had no problem letting families of deceased players speaking before; the rule has only been in place for a few years (pretty convenient, considering that the NFL has seen the research over the last 20 years and could surely know that there will be more inductees like Seau coming down the pipeline now that there is more public awareness of the issue).

And how would this be unfair to the other nominees? As I said before, families of deceased players were allowed to speak before, and they didn't get rid of that because it was unfair to the living players.
 
Just as steroids are part of baseball's history (for better or worse), so are concussions in football. The HOF is a museum, and to pretend that this issue doesn't exist is a fool's errand. They had no problem letting families of deceased players speaking before; the rule has only been in place for a few years (pretty convenient, considering that the NFL has seen the research over the last 20 years and could surely know that there will be more inductees like Seau coming down the pipeline now that there is more public awareness of the issue).

And how would this be unfair to the other nominees? As I said before, families of deceased players were allowed to speak before, and they didn't get rid of that because it was unfair to the living players.

It's unfair to the other nominees because nobody would be talking about any of the nominations at all, even Seau's. Let them have their moment in the sun.
 
I really don't care anymore; this should have been 100% settled almost six months ago. I can't help but wonder if the NFL has let this drag out for so long so it would keep dominating headlines while the HOF keeps Junior Seau's family from speaking at his induction (a totally independent decision, I'm sure).

It had nothing to do with Seau. As of a few years ago the HOF has a policy that there are no posthumus speeches by friends and family as a way to cut down on the time. They would have been making an exception for the Seau family if they had let them speak.
 
For this reason, I can't possibly see any good reason why the Pat's wouldn't just take the 4-game slap and be done with it. 4 games won't end their season. Losing a playoff game will.

not their choice. It's up to him, and maybe he thinks it's worth the risk.
 
It's unfair to the other nominees because nobody would be talking about any of the nominations at all, even Seau's. Let them have their moment in the sun.
What if someone just gave a way better speech that everyone was talking about? Still unfair to other nominees?
 
I think its a good move for any public figure with anything on their phone to avoid giving it up at any cost. Phones keep your pictures and texts on their hard drives after you delete them, the records are often backed up with geo locations and everything is often redundantly backed up. If you are a celebrity who values privacy it should never leave your sight. This isn't about phone records or texts with a guy who massages footballs, its about a guy wanting his privacy. Goodell has destroyed evidence after past investigations of these melodramatic nfl scandals, it just adds to the cartoonish aspect of the kangaroo court.
 
What if someone just gave a way better speech that everyone was talking about? Still unfair to other nominees?

they'd still be talking about one of the nominees, right? I'm saying they wouldn't be talking about the nominations at all, it would completely be a concussion discussion, and those have been had already and will be had again. Talk about it during every NFL broadcast if they must, but to me they can afford one day a year to leave it alone.
 
It had nothing to do with Seau. As of a few years ago the HOF has a policy that there are no posthumus speeches by friends and family as a way to cut down on the time. They would have been making an exception for the Seau family if they had let them speak.

And again, with all the research that's finally starting coming to light regarding concussions over the last 10 years, I think that was the HOF/NFL being proactive more than anything else. I don't think it would be surprising to learn that the NFL knew cases like this were going to start coming their way in the near future and tried to cut it off at the pass with regards to the HOF. They've certainly showing a willingness for deceit every step of the way so far.
 
they'd still be talking about one of the nominees, right? I'm saying they wouldn't be talking about the nominations at all, it would completely be a concussion discussion, and those have been had already and will be had again. Talk about it during every NFL broadcast if they must, but to me they can afford one day a year to leave it alone.

Because no one's ever talked about how awesome Jerry Rice was before and never will again.
 

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