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Big 12 Tiebreaker Rules

isukendall

isukendall

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Looked around on Saturday for the official tiebreaker rules. From what I could collect, it goes to:

1) Best conference record
2) Head to head

After that, it gets a little fuzzy. Since we split with Kansas, it's very possible that if we win out and they win out, it could go to 3.

Can anyone provide the "official" tiebreaker rules?
 
The next one usually does the trick.

II.Each team's record vs. the team occupying the highest position in the final regular-season standings, and then continuing down through the standings until one team gains an advantage.

When arriving at another group of tied teams while comparing records, use each team's record against the collective tied teams as a group (prior to that group's own tie-breaking procedure), rather than the performance against individual tied teams.
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Idk all the scenarios but I think we have the advantage currently? As long as we win out, we'll at least share a title and be the number 1 seed. If we were to lose, you would want the loss to be against TCU because they would have the worst record of our remaining opponents (going off the top of my head, I might be forgetting). But again, that's only if you care about seeding in the Big 12 tourney. I would rather not lose to them
 
We need OU to beat Kansas. One IF we win out this will make us not tied. Two, if we lose to kstate or TCU record vs. OU will be the "first tiebreaker (so equally important we beat OU). Then we need to A. Beat Baylor and hope WVU either finishes in the 4 spot (we win tiebreaker) or they tie with baylor in which case they take our collective record vs both teams (why we can't get swept by baylor). If they do tie it goes to record vs. OSU. We win.

OU beating Kansas is the linchpin. KU wins that game we are the likely #2 seed regardless of what we do. They lose we either win out right or if we lose on the road probably win the tiebreaker.
 
This only applies to Big 12 Tournament seeding. You can have two regular season champs.
 
What would the Big 12 tourney seeding be if this happens?

OU beats ISU, OU beats KU, those three win out otherwise, WVU finishes 4th.

T-1. OU (13-5) - 3-1 record against teams tied with
T-1. KU (13-5) - 2-2 record against teams tied with
T-1. ISU (13-5) - 1-3 record against teams tied with
4. WVU - ISU is 2-0, the others are 1-1

Basically I'm curious if the tie for 1st would be fully resolved before moving on, putting ISU 3rd, or if it would only kick OU to first, and then move on to a 2 team tie between KU and ISU, which would end up going to the WVU tiebreaker and putting ISU 2nd.
 
CyFan61 said:
What would the Big 12 tourney seeding be if this happens?

OU beats ISU, OU beats KU, those three win out otherwise, WVU finishes 4th.

T-1. OU (13-5) - 3-1 record against teams tied with
T-1. KU (13-5) - 2-2 record against teams tied with
T-1. ISU (13-5) - 1-3 record against teams tied with
4. WVU - ISU is 2-0, the others are 1-1

Basically I'm curious if the tie for 1st would be fully resolved before moving on, putting ISU 3rd, or if it would only kick OU to first, and then move on to a 2 team tie between KU and ISU, which would end up going to the WVU tiebreaker and putting ISU 2nd.
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1. OU
2. KU
3. ISU

Combined head to head is the tiebreaker.
 
Cpech56 said:
If we win out, none of this matters. Game by game
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Not really. If Kansas doesn't lose in that scenario the tie breaker would come into effect for seeding and would get the #1 with the record vs. #3 OU or WVU goes 3-1 and gets 3rd (OU would be 1-2 with losses to ISU and KU) And we get the #1 (less likely but possible).

like I said before if KU loses to OU we are the likely #1 seed as long as we don't lose to OU and only lose once. If they don't and win out we share the title and the one seed likely goes to Kansas unless the Mountaineers come through for us again.

Either way from here on out we are Mountaineer fans and root vs. The sooner except vs. KU.

My favorite scenario is actually the Mountaineers winning out and us winning out and Jayhawks lose to OU. We would finish outright first, Mountaineers and OU would tie for second and KU would own 4th place outright.... actually isn't that farfetched. Oh those Jayhawk tears would be sweet.
 
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At this point anything worse than a 13-5 conference record for ISU would be a disappointment. That alone is kind of amazing, given the earlier struggles and acrimony.

The fact that 13-5 could get ISU a share of the title is also pretty amazing because I don't think any of us foresaw KU's recent road struggles. The one thing I don't want to see is ISU backing into the title, for example stumbling to 12-6 but sharing the title with KU. I'd rather that we finish strong, even if it means no title.
 
klamath632 said:
Three games left to play. This is cart-horse stuff here.
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Cpech56 said:
If we win out, none of this matters. Game by game
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Not personal but these kinds of posts are always the most annoying on a fan message board. We're not sitting in the locker room talking about this with Naz and Jameel. Nothing we say or do here will have any impact on the games. We can put the cart before the horse and take it more than one game at a time all we want!
 
It's so ridiculous that in both football and basketball they won't apply tiebreakers to the championship. They do it for who gets to represent the conference in the "whatever you call BCS bowls now" and seeding for the tournament only. It's not that hard, you have true round robins in both sports.

Either get rid of the "One True Champion" slogan or make the tiebreakers apply to the regular season title.

/rant
 
Bader said:
It's so ridiculous that in both football and basketball they won't apply tiebreakers to the championship. They do it for who gets to represent the conference in the "whatever you call BCS bowls now" and seeding for the tournament only. It's not that hard, you have true round robins in both sports.

Either get rid of the "One True Champion" slogan or make the tiebreakers apply to the regular season title.

/rant
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If they did that the one and only tiebreaker should be a freethrow shooting contest between the two head coaches and each coach should be required to hold the entire payroll of his squad - in quarters - in his nonshooting hand.
 
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