Big 12 First Team

joberman1

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I know that the team doesnt have to make sense in the fact that all the players could actually work together but... with Brackins, Griffen and Aldrich i'm kind of wondering who they will pick to be the 3 man
 
IMO- even though Craig might be a better pro than Aldrich....Aldrich should be on the first team and Craig on the second team. To me, the first team should be the best players on the best teams.
 
i dont watch a ton of basketball but i didnt see anyone who is a first-team 3-player so i though that they would take all three of best bigs (CB, CA, BG) and say that one of them plays the three
 
i dont watch a ton of basketball but i didnt see anyone who is a first-team 3-player so i though that they would take all three of best bigs (CB, CA, BG) and say that one of them plays the three

Since they don't literally field a team, they'll likely pick a squad that wouldn't really play in a real-life lineup. I wouldn't be surprised to see four bigs (CB, CA, BG, and DeMarre Carroll from Mizzou) on the 1st team.

If they wanted to pick one at each position, James Anderson would be my 1st-teamer at the 3 spot; Willie Warren or AJ Abrams would be my pick at the 2 spot.
 
MBB: All-Big 12 Coaches' Awards

Brackins first team, as expected.

http://www.big12sports.com

2008-09 PHILLIPS 66 ALL-BIG 12 MEN’S BASKETBALL AWARDS

PLAYER OF THE YEAR
Blake Griffin, Oklahoma, F, So., 6-10, 251, Oklahoma City, Okla./Oklahoma Christian School

DEFENSIVE PLAYERS OF THE YEAR
Cole Aldrich, Kansas, C, So., 6-11, 245, Bloomington, Minn./Jefferson
J.T. Tiller, Missouri, G, Jr., 6-3, 200, Marietta, Ga./Wheeler

NEWCOMER OF THE YEAR
Denis Clemente, Kansas State, G, Jr., 6-1, 175, Bayamon, Puerto Rico/Calusa Prep/Miami (Fla.)

FRESHMAN OF THE YEAR
Willie Warren, Oklahoma, G, Fr., 6-4, 207, Fort Worth, Texas/North Crowley**

SIXTH MAN AWARDS
LaceDarius Dunn, Baylor, G, So., 6-4, 201, Monroe, La./Excelsior Christian School
Matt Lawrence, Missouri, G, Sr., 6-7, 203, St. Louis, Mo./Lafayette

COACH OF THE YEAR
Bill Self, Kansas [Career: 374-143, 16th season; At KU: 167-38, 6th season]


All-Big 12 First Team Pos. Ht. Wt. Cl. Hometown/Previous School(s)



Craig Brackins, Iowa State F 6-10 230 So. Palmdale, Calif./Boys To Men/Brewster Academy [N.H.]
Cole Aldrich, Kansas C 6-11 245 So. Bloomington, Minn./Jefferson Sherron Collins, Kansas** G 5-11 200 Jr. Chicago, Ill./Crane DeMarre Carroll, Missouri F 6-8 225 Sr. Birmingham, Ala./Hoover/UAB Blake Griffin, Oklahoma** F 6-10 251 So. Oklahoma City, Okla./Oklahoma Christian School All-Big 12 Second Team Pos. Ht. Wt. Cl. Hometown/Previous School(s) Denis Clemente, Kansas State G 6-1 175 Jr. Bayamon, Puerto Rico/Calusa Prep/Miami (Fla.) Willie Warren, Oklahoma G 6-4 207 Fr. Fort Worth, Texas/North Crowley James Anderson, Oklahoma State G/F 6-6 195 So. Junction City, Ark./Junction City A.J. Abrams, Texas G 5-11 161 Sr. Round Rock, Texas/McNeil Damion James, Texas G/F 6-7 222 Jr. Nacogdoches, Texas/Nacogdoches All-Big 12 Third Team Pos. Ht. Wt. Cl. Hometown/Previous School(s)



Curtis Jerrells, Baylor G 6-1 201 Sr. Austin, Texas/Del Valle Cory Higgins, Colorado G 6-5 185 So. Danville, Calif./Monta Vista/The Pendleton School [Fla.] Leo Lyons, Missouri F 6-9 244 Sr. Kansas City, Kan./Coastal Christian Academy Ade Dagunduro, Nebraska G 6-5 200 Sr. Inglewood, Calif./Inglewood/Antelope Valley CC Byron Eaton, Oklahoma State G 5-11 218 Sr. Dallas, Texas/Lincoln Josh Carter, Texas A&M G/F 6-7 205 Sr. Dallas, Texas/Lake Highlands All-Big 12 Honorable Mention (Listed alphabetically by school)
LaceDarius Dunn (Baylor), Kevin Rogers (Baylor), Jacob Pullen (Kansas State), J.T. Tiller (Missouri), Austin Johnson (Oklahoma), Terrel Harris (Oklahoma State), John Roberson (Texas Tech), Alan Voskuil (Texas Tech)


Big 12 All-Defensive Team Pos. Ht. Wt. Cl. Hometown/Previous School(s) Cole Aldrich, Kansas C 6-11 245 So. Bloomington, Minn./Jefferson J.T. Tiller, Missouri** G 6-3 200 Jr. Marietta, Ga./Wheeler Ade Dagunduro, Nebraska G 6-5 200 Sr. Inglewood, Calif./Inglewood/Antelope Valley CC Terrel Harris, Oklahoma State G 6-5 184 Sr. Dallas, Texas/South Garland Justin Mason, Texas G 6-2 194 Jr. Amarillo, Texas/Palo Duro Derrick Roland, Texas A&M G 6-4 190 Jr. Dallas, Texas/Seagoville Big 12 All-Rookie Team Pos. Ht. Wt. Cl. Hometown/Previous School(s) Marcus Morris, Kansas F 6-8 225 Fr. Philadelphia, Pa./Prep Charter/APEX Academy [N.J.] Tyshawn Taylor, Kansas** G 6-3 180 Fr. Hoboken, N.J./Saint Anthony Denis Clemente, Kansas State** G 6-1 175 Jr. Bayamon, Puerto Rico/Calusa Prep/Miami (Fla.) Zaire Taylor, Missouri G 6-4 189 Jr. Staten Island, N.Y./University of Delaware Willie Warren, Oklahoma** G 6-4 207 Fr. Fort Worth, Texas/North Crowley ** - Unanimous Selection
Ties in the voting created additional spots for Defensive Player of the Year, Sixth Man Award and on the third and all-defensive teams

 
IMO- even though Craig might be a better pro than Aldrich....Aldrich should be on the first team and Craig on the second team. To me, the first team should be the best players on the best teams.

what? I know it is your opinion but I disagree. The most talented and productive players in the conference should have a shot at the first team. So do you think Troy Davis should be second team all Big 12 tailback because he was on a team with Div. 1AA talent that didn't win very many games?
 
Cole Aldrich is a poor mans Eric Montross, at least in terms of NBA potential. He'll have to be one hell of a rebounder or defender to sniff the floor.
 
Congrats to Craig...in the last year he's went from being a highly skilled, but inconsistant freshman, to being a first team all conference player...

Hopefully next year we're talking about how he went from being all conference, to all-american, and was in large part responsible for turning this program around!
 
what? I know it is your opinion but I disagree. The most talented and productive players in the conference should have a shot at the first team. So do you think Troy Davis should be second team all Big 12 tailback because he was on a team with Div. 1AA talent that didn't win very many games?
You are following my thinking.....to me, those awards should go to the good players that affect winning positively, ie have there teams at the top of there conferences. I'm not saying take the starting five off KU this year, cause they won the conference, but there should be a heavy slant in voting, IMO, towards players who greatly affect winning.

Its true we might have zero wins in the B12 w/o Craig, but we were so irrelevant this year that if I was voting I'd vote for someone else from one of those top teams. I understand that opinion doesn't sound fair to players from bad teams....but I think the best players that promote team winning should be rewarded.
 
You are following my thinking.....to me, those awards should go to the good players that affect winning positively, ie have there teams at the top of there conferences. I'm not saying take the starting five off KU this year, cause they won the conference, but there should be a heavy slant in voting, IMO, towards players who greatly affect winning.

Its true we might have zero wins in the B12 w/o Craig, but we were so irrelevant this year that if I was voting I'd vote for someone else from one of those top teams. I understand that opinion doesn't sound fair to players from bad teams....but I think the best players that promote team winning should be rewarded.

I see your point, but I don't think someone should be penalized for being on a bad team, unless they are just boosting their stats as a result of being on said bad team.

Huge props to Craig Brackins for making first team. It is a great accomplishment.
 

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