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When the Big 12 add teams,
We want to add teams that will bring us TV money,
and be good for the Big 12 and college football.

Adding teams in Texas and Oklahoma may be good for local rivalries, but they are not good for adding TV money.

After reviewing the list of Top 100 TV markets,
Top 100 Television Markets - Station Index
and looking for teams that may be interested in joining,
I noticed that Florida has some teams we should go after.

Universtiy of Southern Florida in the Tampa/St. Petersberg Area Top 13 TV Market

Florida International or Florida Atlantic near Miami/Ft. Lauderdale area Top 16 TV market

University of Central Florida near Orlando/Datona Beach area Top 19 TV market

Selecting three of these teams would create a new Florida core for the Big 12.
Each of these has a solid TV market, so the Big 12 gets great TV money.
Adding three would create local rivalries to help make College football better.
Adding University of Southern Florida hurts the Big East and may further their demise.
Adding teams in Florida would help the Big 12 with recruiting the great talent in this state.
It is also more likely to succede long term than just adding one team in Florida.
I believe a move like this could be good for College Football and the Big 12.
 
No thank you to Central Florida coming in as long as George O'Leary is their head coach.
 
While they have large amounts of tv sets in their areas, I believe their fan bases are fairly small. Seems to be common in the "vacation" areas. Too much competition. I would prefer closer schools for travel purposes. Money will come if we just stabilize and woke things out.
 
Adding these teams would cost and arm and a leg for travel, especially for your Olympic Sports.

When adding teams, you have to look at the BIG picture, not just football.
 
Carr50010 said:
When the Big 12 add teams,
We want to add teams that will bring us TV money,
and be good for the Big 12 and college football.

Adding teams in Texas and Oklahoma may be good for local rivalries, but they are not good for adding TV money.

After reviewing the list of Top 100 TV markets,
Top 100 Television Markets - Station Index
and looking for teams that may be interested in joining,
I noticed that Florida has some teams we should go after.

Universtiy of Southern Florida in the Tampa/St. Petersberg Area Top 13 TV Market

Florida International or Florida Atlantic near Miami/Ft. Lauderdale area Top 16 TV market

University of Central Florida near Orlando/Datona Beach area Top 19 TV market

Selecting three of these teams would create a new Florida core for the Big 12.
Each of these has a solid TV market, so the Big 12 gets great TV money.
Adding three would create local rivalries to help make College football better.
Adding University of Southern Florida hurts the Big East and may further their demise.
Adding teams in Florida would help the Big 12 with recruiting the great talent in this state.
It is also more likely to succede long term than just adding one team in Florida.
I believe a move like this could be good for College Football and the Big 12.
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or maybe it hurts ISU state of Florida recruiting because it would give recruits 2 more local choices that will now be BCS level schools.
 
I was thinking along these same lines, we need to go out and add teams from the biggest media markets we can find. But, I think you idea is taking too narrow of an approach. So I did a little research and discovered that the Imperial College London, King's College London, and London South Bank University all have american football teams that currently plays in the British Universities American Football League. I think they'd be perfect. Imagine all the really great trips for our fans to Europe and we lock down the London TV market and create a new international core for big12 football. I think this would be great for college football and for the Big12.
 
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Cypwr said:
or maybe it hurts ISU state of Florida recruiting because it would give recruits 2 more local choices that will now be BCS level schools.
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We as an institution already have people recruiting these area's. Where we need to recruit is the Ohio/Penn region. Plenty of football talent out there. They just need to find out about ISU. If I were realigning, I would bring in BYU and then Louisville in the first go around. IF we were able to bring in 2 more teams, I'd take grab UFC and maybe New Mexico State for the California talent being recruited.
 
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We as an institution already have people recruiting these area's. Where we need to recruit is the Ohio/Penn region. Plenty of football talent out there. They just need to find out about ISU. If I were realigning, I would bring in BYU and then Louisville in the first go around. IF we were able to bring in 2 more teams, I'd take grab UFC and maybe New Mexico State for the California talent being recruited.
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BYU would be a good one to get.
Louisville is a Top 50 TV market, which would not compare to any of the Florida
schools.
No decent California recruit cares about New Mexico football, even though I think
it would be fun to pummell them every year. Again no TV market.

Focus on the Florida Schools for their TV markets.
If we can get better Florida schools like Florida State or Miami,
that would be even better, but not likely to happen.
 
When are people to grasp the concept that you want schools that bring enough to the table to earn their share and not dilute other teams' shares. Everybody is obsessed with adding schools in large TV markets, well guess what nobody is those cities where schools like New Mexico, Memphis, SMU and Tulsa give a rats *** about those programs.
 
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I was thinking along these same lines, we need to go out and add teams from the biggest media markets we can find. But, I think you idea is taking too narrow of an approach. So I did a little research and discovered that the Imperial College London, King's College London, and London South Bank University all have american football teams that currently plays in the British Universities American Football League. I think they'd be perfect. Imagine all the really great trips for our fans to Europe and we lock down the London TV market and create a new international core for big12 football. I think this would be great for college football and for the Big12.
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Funny,
So I am guessing you want to add Northern Illinois or South Dakota State since they are so close to Ames.
You think flying to BYU, New Mexico, or San Diego State would be cheaper?
This would develop a new mini core of schools, like the three we have in Texas.
 
Carr50010 said:
BYU would be a good one to get.
Louisville is a Top 50 TV market, which would not compare to any of the Florida
schools.
No decent California recruit cares about New Mexico football, even though I think
it would be fun to pummell them every year. Again no TV market.

Focus on the Florida Schools for their TV markets.
If we can get better Florida schools like Florida State or Miami,
that would be even better, but not likely to happen.
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By getting lower quality schools, we don't pick up their TV markets. Especially in florida, a state with a large population of retirees who already have favorite teams and don't care to watch the local schools. All we get is what is leftover after the major florida schools' (the U and UF) fans and the retirees are removed from the equation, and that is slim pickings. We don't get better recruiting, if anything we lose recruiting to other big XII schools if we were to suddenly turn 3 florida schools into big XII schools. The only positive that I can see from this one is that we add a few more schools that we can beat on a regular basis to the mix, which is always a good thing for ISU.
 
CyBroncos said:
When are people to grasp the concept that you want schools that bring enough to the table to earn their share and not dilute other teams' shares. Everybody is obsessed with adding schools in large TV markets, well guess what nobody is those cities where schools like New Mexico, Memphis, SMU and Tulsa give a rats *** about those programs.
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Tulsa would give a rats *** really quickly if it became a big XII school, but the stadium needs major upgrading before it fits in with what is there in the rest of the conference. That and the fact that the Big XII already has OU and OSU in the state.
 
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South Florida is a good option. They will be a national name for many years in 20 years with 35,000 plus students and climbing, a 375 million dollar endowment located in a major metropolitan area. In my lifetime and my travels to Tampa, I have seen a hundred fold increase in interest in the school and their Football team. I would say, they are one of the top 5 choices in the country to pick up for the Big 12 (IMO). The other two, I just can't see us taking. I guess one other would be okay to create the instate conference rivalry and pull some added interest into the Big 12, but it would be hard to justify either, academically, athletically or based on any kind of possible national interest.

So good thought, but only USF is worthy IMO.
 
Carr50010 said:
I like your thinking.
The University of Chicago does not have a football team also,
maybe we could get them to start one up also?
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Chicago used to have a football team, they were even in the Big 10. Don't be fooled when people tell you that the Big 10 doesn't drop any schools from the conference. It just hasn't happened in over 60 years.
 
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