BIG 12 continues to distance itself in conference strength
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And the 2nd place team is closer to 6th place than they are to 1st place. Brutal. Should be another tough year in the Big 12. Hopefully we all come out of it healthy and ready to tear up the ncaa tourney. I would love to see the Big 12 get 3+ teams to the Elite Eight and multiple teams to the Final Four. TOugh to do but I think they have four teams all very capable of deep runs in KU, Texas, ISU and Oklahoma.
we're only 10% of the conference, but I'm convinced we'll always be undervalued by the formula because of our speed of play. I can't pretend to know why, but we just are always lower in Kenpom than the other computer rankings I check regularly. So it's even more impressive when you consider that.
For example a few days ago we were 20th in Kenpom but 14th in an average of 30 different computer polls (before the @Iowa win). Not as hue a disparity as is typical, but it's pretty much always there with the way ISU plays. His formula doesn't like something about Hoiball that lots of other formulas and human polls are fine with.
Even with the season so early, it's crazy how many of the computer polls have us right around 12-15 just like the human polls.
For example a few days ago we were 20th in Kenpom but 14th in an average of 30 different computer polls (before the @Iowa win). Not as hue a disparity as is typical, but it's pretty much always there with the way ISU plays. His formula doesn't like something about Hoiball that lots of other formulas and human polls are fine with.
Even with the season so early, it's crazy how many of the computer polls have us right around 12-15 just like the human polls.
speaking of computer rankings, check out #16 and #17 here:
http://www.usatoday.com/sports/ncaab/sagarin/
The definitive source to be sure on that question.
http://www.usatoday.com/sports/ncaab/sagarin/
The definitive source to be sure on that question.
I think good fast paced teams get underrated by KenPom because they don't pour it on in blowouts. Wisconsin can methodically blow out a team 70-40 over 50 possessions, and ISU can get up to a 40 point lead, then win 100-70 over 70 possessions, and Wisconsin will get a much higher rating by kenpom because their 30 pt win in 50 possessions is equivalent to a 42 point win in 70 possessions.
I think KenPom acknowledged that it was an issue, and tried to make a "Wisconsin" adjustment last year.
how many conference losses do you guys think we can have and still win it? i think the winner likely ends up with 2+ losses..
While we've got the horses to compete, it is going to be brutal. I would live to see 12 wins and zero injuries. That's a 3 or 4 seed I think.
I'm surprised how close the Big Ten is to the ACC...the Big Ten looks pretty awful so far.
Big 12 has been the best conference for the past two years, hands down. Incredible basketball conference.
Big 12 has been the best conference for the past two years, hands down. Incredible basketball conference.
Unlike football, the Big Ten added a good basketball program to balance out the bad one it added.
Gotta have the horses and TCU has landed some 'wtf' players lately...not Baylor from 4-5 years ago, but still kind of out of nowhere talent infusion.
Debatable. Neither will sniff the tournament anyways, but one's definitely not a clear-cut favorite over the other. Tech is a very, very young team...lots more upside.
I'm still hating on it, if that makes you feel better. ;-) It's a great gambling tool (possibly the best) but that's not what the typical fan uses it for. In terms of what the casual fan wants out of a college basketball ranking it devalues teams actually winning games far too much, you get things like Tennessee being vastly overated last year because they lost a ton but kept it close.
By the end of the year Kenpom typically sucks compared to RPI (and other computer rankings) in doing what most college basketball fans want a ranking to do.