Big 12 Basketball Midseason Reset

CyFan61

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With the Big 12-SEC Challenge this weekend and a break from conference play, I thought it was appropriate to take a look at where the conference race is. It's also easy to do so now, because every team has played 8 conference games, has 5 more home games, and has 5 more road games.

Here are the current conference standings, just in win-loss record, organized to show the divisions that have formed so far:


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Seems like a pretty big gap between #6 and #7 (as most would expect).

A look at the "Tim Floyd" standings (+1 for road win, -1 for home loss, 0 for home win/road loss) confirms this:


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In fact, the disparities between each team are identical in the actual standings and the Tim Floyd standings. It's obvious that there's a top six and a bottom four.

So I wanted to compare the roads ahead for those six contenders. Like I said earlier, each will play 5 home and 5 road games still, but the opponents vary somewhat wildly:


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Oklahoma has the easiest remaining schedule, with only 2 of their 5 road games against other contenders. Meanwhile, West Virginia has to play 4 more road games against the top teams in the conference and only gets 1 against the bottom tier.

Baylor and West Virginia have the benefit of being a game up on KU, ISU, and UT right now. But it looks like West Virginia's advantage is expected to go away. Baylor's could come down to how well they can protect their home court.

In terms of breaking existing ties, OU has a huge advantage over both BU and WVU with remaining schedules, and KU and ISU have an advantage over UT.


My final take-away: Texas should finish 6th. Oklahoma should finish 1st. The rest are harder to call, but I would give BU, KU, and ISU a slight advantage on WVU, who should finish 5th. If either Kansas or Iowa State win at Baylor - they become the best challenger to take down or share a title with Oklahoma. And if Baylor handles them both at home, they're in the driver's seat for 2nd/tie for 1st.

Should be a fun February + week of March to finish this out.
 
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Man some GREAT FACTS on here today. (Jareds article, Kirks, and this one) I'd rather be geeky and talk about numbers and finding interesting facts. Too often here we talk about hypothetical and petty insane ********.
 
I think West Virginia finishes better than 5th. Advanced metrics say they should do better than that. I think the shorter shot clock this year enhances their pressing style of play, especially against teams that have slower tempo offenses and also against teams that have fewer quality ball handlers.
 
I think West Virginia finishes better than 5th. Advanced metrics say they should do better than that. I think the shorter shot clock this year enhances their pressing style of play, especially against teams that have slower tempo offenses and also against teams that have fewer quality ball handlers.

I guess we'll see. I know WVU is a KenPom darling but they still have three games left against the top two offenses in the Big 12 (Oklahoma and Iowa State).
 
With the Big 12-SEC Challenge this weekend and a break from conference play, I thought it was appropriate to take a look at where the conference race is. It's also easy to do so now, because every team has played 8 conference games, has 5 more home games, and has 5 more road games.

Here are the current conference standings, just in win-loss record, organized to show the divisions that have formed so far:


8euITsG.png



Seems like a pretty big gap between #6 and #7 (as most would expect).

A look at the "Tim Floyd" standings (+1 for road win, -1 for home loss, 0 for home win/road loss) confirms this:


F1uwJ0O.png



In fact, the disparities between each team are identical in the actual standings and the Tim Floyd standings. It's obvious that there's a top six and a bottom four.

So I wanted to compare the roads ahead for those six contenders. Like I said earlier, each will play 5 home and 5 road games still, but the opponents vary somewhat wildly:


rohs6R6.png



Oklahoma has the easiest remaining schedule, with only 2 of their 5 road games against other contenders. Meanwhile, West Virginia has to play 4 more road games against the top teams in the conference and only gets 1 against the bottom tier.

Baylor and West Virginia have the benefit of being a game up on KU, ISU, and UT right now. But it looks like West Virginia's advantage is expected to go away. Baylor's could come down to how well they can protect their home court.

In terms of breaking existing ties, OU has a huge advantage over both BU and WVU with remaining schedules, and KU and ISU have an advantage over UT.


My final take-away: Texas should finish 6th. Oklahoma should finish 1st. The rest are harder to call, but I would give BU, KU, and ISU a slight advantage on WVU, who should finish 5th. If either Kansas or Iowa State win at Baylor - they become the best challenger to take down or share a title with Oklahoma. And if Baylor handles them both at home, they're in the driver's seat for 2nd/tie for 1st.

Should be a fun February + week of March to finish this out.
Thank you for this. Man that baylor loss could be the dagger
 
ISU HAS to beat WVU and Baylor on the road. Tough task, but anything can happen.

I think we sweep West Virginia this year. I just feel like between having 3-4 guys on the court that are able to bring the ball up the court to break the press and our as of late defensive focus, I like our matchup with them. They make it tough for sure, but that's the team I think we can gain a game in the Big 12 race, even though Oklahoma is sitting in the drivers seat right now.
 
I think we sweep West Virginia this year. I just feel like between having 3-4 guys on the court that are able to bring the ball up the court to break the press and our as of late defensive focus, I like our matchup with them. They make it tough for sure, but that's the team I think we can gain a game in the Big 12 race, even though Oklahoma is sitting in the drivers seat right now.

We'll get to the line so we need to have a good to great night there....a 21-25 type not a 14-25.
 
I think we sweep West Virginia this year. I just feel like between having 3-4 guys on the court that are able to bring the ball up the court to break the press and our as of late defensive focus, I like our matchup with them. They make it tough for sure, but that's the team I think we can gain a game in the Big 12 race, even though Oklahoma is sitting in the drivers seat right now.

i tend to agree. WV is not as good as they appear right now. They beat a weak KU team at home, and what else? They could show me wrong, but I have a good feeling about winning against them.
 
We'll get to the line so we need to have a good to great night there....a 21-25 type not a 14-25.

Definitely. That's a game where doing the little things well matters. Coming down to the wire if it's close, they'll foul and we'll have to make free throws. Luckily we shot 80% or better from the ft line 3 of the last 4 games. We just seem much more fundamentally sound most of the game which (slightly off topic) is why feel good about the game vs A&M
 
ISU HAS to beat WVU and Baylor on the road. Tough task, but anything can happen.

I don't think ISU has to win both of those games. It would be especially nice to give Baylor a home loss while simultaneously getting a road win, and WVU has a minefield to venture through anyway, so if ISU doesn't pull that one off, someone else probably will.

If ISU wins the games it should (all at home and on the road vs. the bottom 4), I'm pretty confident that winning at Baylor alone - even with a loss at WVU - would at least put ISU in the position to play for a share of the Big 12 title in the last game of the season in Lawrence vs. KU. (This isn't saying a whole lot other than being 13-4 with one game left is a good place to be.)
 
i tend to agree. WV is not as good as they appear right now. They beat a weak KU team at home, and what else? They could show me wrong, but I have a good feeling about winning against them.

Agreed, it seems like we have handled their press better than most teams. They seem to struggle against guards that don't turn the ball over against their press. Morris was breaking their press and getting to the basket with ease last year.

Funny thing about Texas, they would be 7-1 and in first right now if they hadnt lost to Texas Tech and TCU.
 
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We basically control our own destiny against everyone but Oklahoma.
 
I do find it mildly surprising that the gap between 6 and 7 is so wide. I'd expect at least one team at 4-4. I guess we can thank the turd we laid in Austin for that.

It'd be great to update this info each week as the scenarios change. This is so much more fun to talk about than all the ******** about McKay.
 

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