Sometimes in life you just have to step up and admit when something isn’t working anymore. If this doesn’t feel like the Rhoads era or the Prohm times in basketball, then maybe you weren’t around for those eras.
Asking again: Has the rot started to set in?
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I don't know what's going on but yesterday it seemed like no one wanted to be there including Campbell
The question everyone should be asking is WHY haven't they fixed the offense?!?
There was a time in 2017 when they scrapped the entire Cyclone defense because Akron ran for 150 yards on them in a half. And they did it in two weeks, successfully, and never went back. They were willing to do something different to win.
What happened to that? Maybe nobody in any of the offensive rooms has the credibility with Campbell that Heacock does when they say something needs to be done differently. But watching the offense bang its head against a figurative 8 and 9 man brick wall week after week is pretty disheartening when you know they've shown the ability to revamp on the fly in the past.
They can't even say the offensive schemes are an issue. I'm not hopeful something can be salvaged at the moment.
There was a time in 2017 when they scrapped the entire Cyclone defense because Akron ran for 150 yards on them in a half. And they did it in two weeks, successfully, and never went back. They were willing to do something different to win.
What happened to that? Maybe nobody in any of the offensive rooms has the credibility with Campbell that Heacock does when they say something needs to be done differently. But watching the offense bang its head against a figurative 8 and 9 man brick wall week after week is pretty disheartening when you know they've shown the ability to revamp on the fly in the past.
They can't even say the offensive schemes are an issue. I'm not hopeful something can be salvaged at the moment.
I spent the week thinking "you know, as much as I am critical of Campbell's offensive ideas right now, the players still seem bought in, which is a million times more important than what some nobody like me thinks." Yesterday a lot of the players did not seem especially bought in.
Everything about yesterday felt like the last days of Rhoads.
How much blame does JP shoulder for making a home and home deal with a MAC team? I understand the economic reality we are in, but does anything about yesterday's game change if we have an additional home game instead of playing in Athens, Ohio?
Semantics but they switched to the 3-3-5 two weeks (bye week) after losing to Texas although the Texas loss was largely due to Jacob Park losing his mind. Perhaps it was just off of trends though.
I think changing defensive personnel mid-season might be an easier deal than offense. For defense it was just adding a safety and taking away a D-lineman, and reassigning.
Adding receivers or spreading things out, in ISU's case, just puts more average speed on the field and likely still no running game. They got some things going yesterday with the passing game late but if they came out in that, the defense would adjust and with no run game, it's still going to be hard.
It's a stupid deal but the location has nothing to do with it.
If they spread the field the other team has to defend that, which pulls defenders out of the box.
Last week I thought Campbell "might" be a bad offensive coach. This week I'm certain of it.
If he doesn't see this and make a change within two weeks, I'll consider him a straight up bad head coach too.
No blame. You are a P5 school and should still go win that game, especially giving up only 10 points. If you are afraid to go on the road against a MAC team then you have bigger issues. Sure G5 teams win plenty of times, but what we saw yesterday was a G5 team that was better and tougher in the critical areas of the game, specifically the offensive line.
Defenders are going to be able to cover it against ISU's personnel and don't have to do anything else if ISU can't sustain anything from the run.
Heck defenses are teeing off on ISU's Oline as it is because there's not a real viable threat in the pass. They got caught late a bit yesterday but I didn't see anything sustainable.
I answered “yes” last week too.
I’m getting old and have essentially lost faith in cyclone football.
A small and obvious example: We’re seemingly the only P5 school that can’t make field goals. And it’s been that way for at least 4 freaking coaching staffs. It’s insane.
I’m getting old and have essentially lost faith in cyclone football.
A small and obvious example: We’re seemingly the only P5 school that can’t make field goals. And it’s been that way for at least 4 freaking coaching staffs. It’s insane.
We have seen it recently with Mevis. That kid was very good, and it shows how important a kicker is. Points are points, and as CW mentioned on the recap last night, if you are going to play in a phone booth and muck up the game the way we do, you HAVE TO have an elite kicker that is going to get you those 3 points nearly every time. You can't play low-scoring, tight games, and expect to win when you can't make FGs.
Yesterday (and I mentioned this in the gameday thread) the missed FGs should NOT be the scapegoat here. You are playing a MAC team that scored only 10 points and the thing that could have won you the game is a couple of missed FGs? BS, you as the P5 school need to get in the end zone against a freaking MAC team. We needed two TDs yesterday to win that game. That's it. No excuse losing ANY game while only giving up 10 points, including if you somehow only gave up 10 points to Georgia.
I don't think the talent is terrible. I think the coaching has been bad though. Not just talking development, more so x's and o's, creativity, pace, etc. Just the offense of course. This defense has been really good, I just would like to see more blitzing to generate turnovers.
Go on….I want to take the next step in this spiral.
We beat the same team by 30 last year in Ames (a 4-win team). They’ve gotten better and we have regressed. That has nothing to do with scheduling.
The “rot” may have set in, but the redundant post and new poll where the responders are led isn’t as clever or as witty as you hoped.
I know this is an oft-repeated factoid, but I never really digested it and had to look it up.....Matt was in a college program that was 54-1 while he was there. Hmmmmmm.