It won't take Niang 15 years to get honored. He'll be up there the minute he is eligible. If he's not then our athletic department is failing him, the program, and fans.
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It won't take Niang 15 years to get honored. He'll be up there the minute he is eligible. If he's not then our athletic department is failing him, the program, and fans.
No written rule, just JP's opinion I believe.
Just for the record, ISU is neither in the NBA nor part of the Olympics. Are you advocating for Shirley and Vroman? I think NBA or Olympics can add to (and justify) the lore of a collegiate player, but it's the collegiate accomplishments that must predominantly drive a university to hang a jersey.To be blunt. Play in the NBA or win an Olympic medal. He's very worthy of being honored but just doesn't clear the bar in my eyes at least not yet. He's got time to earn it in other ways.
Good discussion everyone needs understand, that if it took 20 years to retire Barry Stevens jersey so Melvin, George and Monte will be given the honor around 2030 or later. Fred and Jeff were quicker only because they had 10+ year runs in the NBA, but still it took around 15 years after graduation for both of these to get the honor.
I think all three deserve it because of AA status and will eventually get the honor.
Are there actual rules about when somebody becomes eligible? Also, what if he is still playing somewhere? You don't want to do it without him and it isn't like he is going to just leave the team he is on to come back for a weekend to do it.
Melvin Ejim ......
From Wikipedia..
"As a senior in 2013–14, Ejim had one of the best seasons in school history, earning Big 12 Player of the Year honors (coaches & AP) and All-America honors from five organizations. He was a finalist for the Oscar Robertson Trophy, became the fifth Academic All-American in school history, earned Capital One first team Academic All-America honors and was named the Big 12 Scholar Athlete of the Year for the second time. He became just the fourth player in league history to record 1,500 points and 1,000 rebounds in a career, finishing his career with the most wins of any Cyclone men's basketball player at 88 wins. He also finished 12th in scoring (1,643), second in rebounding (1,051), tied for 10th in steals (146) and 15th in blocks (59); he also broke the school record for games played (135) and games started (126"
three NCAA tournaments, a Big 12 Tourney Title and Sweet 16. Played on two national teams as well.
What else does he need to do?
I'm pretty sure I've read that they have to be in the ISU HoF first which requires them to have graduated.
With the understanding that retiring numbers leads to less options in the future, that puts a limitation on who is worthy of their number being retired. Now, if Iowa State were to do a "ring of honor" type thing, there is no doubt in my mind all 3 would be up there.
Good discussion everyone needs understand, that if it took 20 years to retire Barry Stevens jersey so Melvin, George and Monte will be given the honor around 2030 or later. Fred and Jeff were quicker only because they had 10+ year runs in the NBA, but still it took around 15 years after graduation for both of these to get the honor.
I think all three deserve it because of AA status and will eventually get the honor.
Yes, it has been pointed out to me. Not sure how I forgot.We don't retire numbers, just jerseys.
I'm frequently guilty of starting to read a four page thread and responding to a post on the first page before discovering that twelve people have already responded.Yes, it has been pointed out to me. Not sure how I forgot.
To be blunt. Play in the NBA or win an Olympic medal. He's very worthy of being honored but just doesn't clear the bar in my eyes at least not yet. He's got time to earn it in other ways.
I'm pretty sure I've read that they have to be in the ISU HoF first which requires them to have graduated.
So if Grayer had blown his knee out in his last game at ISU and his basketball playing days were over in your mind he shouldn't have been recognized?To be blunt. Play in the NBA or win an Olympic medal. He's very worthy of being honored but just doesn't clear the bar in my eyes at least not yet. He's got time to earn it in other ways.
I doubt it since Wegner, Thompson and Abdul-Aziz wouldn't be up there...Doesn't ISU have the rule you have to be a four year player to get it retired?
That's our Cyclone fan base - unrivaled internet skilz.I doubt it since Wegner, Thompson and Abdul-Aziz wouldn't be up there...
By the way, on Wikipedia someone has already added Georges' name.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iowa_State_Cyclones_men's_basketball
I doubt it since Wegner, Thompson and Abdul-Aziz wouldn't be up there...
By the way, on Wikipedia someone has already added Georges' name.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iowa_State_Cyclones_men's_basketball