2021 Predictions and Guesses

[CyCloneRastlinG]

I see some of you guys arguing with the degenerates over on the other board and it got me thinking about our ceiling. Some of the hawk fans seem to think its impossible that a Cyclone team that shows up at nationals could get 5th. I think that's still a far stretch but here are my ceiling guesses as we jump into the season here soon.

125 - 5th
133 - R12
141 - 4th
149 - 5th
157 - Champ
165 - N/A
174 - 7th
184 - 6th
197 - 4th (I honestly have no idea, but there are only a couple top level guys here.)
285 - 6th

8 AA's and a Champ should be close to a fantasy top 5.

 

[Stevetasker]

With the Ivy league not wrestling & Olympic redshirts taking place, I've lost track of who's competing this year. That would be a great team finish.

 

[cyclonenation5]

8 all-Americans would at least get a runner up finish, possibly a team title if Iowa had things go awry at nationals.

Also, it’s probably not going to happen. This is best case scenario for pretty much every single guy in the lineup.

I think we’re going to be very tough this year, but I don’t think we have 8 AAs and get top 2. And that’s ok.

 

[JM4CY]

Here’s how I look at it and more astute wrestling fans can correct me: I think 5 AA is a reasonable guess, and hoping David can win it.

41, 49, and 57 are essentially locks to AA. Personally I think Ian could be a dark horse to make the finals. I know the weight is tough this year but you know the fight will be there from him.

Then between Colbray, Mackall and Gannon you would think 1-2 of them should AA. Of course all three can but you could reasonably guess at least one of them will have some tough path and not make it. (That’s the other thing, seeding will be a freakin mess and total wild card factor).

Broderson and the Cuban (assuming he beats Coleman) could very well AA but I think that’s a big ask for both of them for different reasons. Obviously I hope they do AA but I think seeding for those two will be crucial.

Then at 33 I think the best hope would be win a couple matches and 65, well, that’s just a scratch.

I don’t know where that puts you team wise but I would certainly hope we could be a top 10 team and hopefully somewhere in the 7-8 range. Remember, I believe the Ivy League isn’t going so that eliminates some guys.

 

[stuclone]

Here’s how I look at it and more astute wrestling fans can correct me: I think 5 AA is a reasonable guess, and hoping David can win it.

41, 49, and 57 are essentially locks to AA. Personally I think Ian could be a dark horse to make the finals. I know the weight is tough this year but you know the fight will be there from him.

Then between Colbray, Mackall and Gannon you would think 1-2 of them should AA. Of course all three can but you could reasonably guess at least one of them will have some tough path and not make it. (That’s the other thing, seeding will be a freakin mess and total wild card factor).

Broderson and the Cuban (assuming he beats Coleman) could very well AA but I think that’s a big ask for both of them for different reasons. Obviously I hope they do AA but I think seeding for those two will be crucial.

Then at 33 I think the best hope would be win a couple matches and 65, well, that’s just a scratch.

I don’t know where that puts you team wise but I would certainly hope we could be a top 10 team and hopefully somewhere in the 7-8 range. Remember, I believe the Ivy League isn’t going so that eliminates some guys.

This is a pretty good write up. To say we don’t have a chance at top 5 is underestimating this team. Losing Gomez definitely hurts, but we have some decent options behind him in Redding, Small, or Ramazan that could score a couple points at nationals. For me, top 10 is the expectation, top 8 would be a good year, top 5 would be exceptional

 

[CyCloneRastlinG]

8 all-Americans would at least get a runner up finish, possibly a team title if Iowa had things go awry at nationals.

Also, it’s probably not going to happen. This is best case scenario for pretty much every single guy in the lineup.

I think we’re going to be very tough this year, but I don’t think we have 8 AAs and get top 2. And that’s ok.

Agreed, this is definitely best case scenario and won’t happen. My main point was that it could happen if everything went right. Even with that 8 AA’s though I don’t think we’d crack the top 3 or 4. Those 5th-8th places typically don’t rack up near as many points as top 3 guys who put up bonus points and pin. Degen is the only one who has proven to be a consistent bonus point guy and could score a lot of points at nationals on the backside while the others seem to win by decision. All those AA points are wiped out by 2 or 3 really good finishes with bonus points on a Minnesota, NC State or Ohio State.

 

[JM4CY]

This is a pretty good write up. To say we don’t have a chance at top 5 is underestimating this team. Losing Gomez definitely hurts, but we have some decent options behind him in Redding, Small, or Ramazan that could score a couple points at nationals. For me, top 10 is the expectation, top 8 would be a good year, top 5 would be exceptional

Is there any talk about Small going down to 33? Obviously he’s not gonna beat Ian but maybe that’s too much of a cut for him now? Maybe he can’t beat Redding given the cut too. I don’t know.

The other thing is that Dresser made a point in the interview in the van to say the line up is going to be very fluid. I kind of thought that was weird given how veteran the line up is so I was wondering what he might be alluding too. Maybe he wanted to make it clear that at 33 (given he knew Gomez was done), 65 and 97 they are going to spend the year looking for “the guy”. Of course at 65 I think “the guy” might be wearing a different singlet right now.

 

[crablegs]

I see some of you guys arguing with the degenerates over on the other board and it got me thinking about our ceiling. Some of the hawk fans seem to think its impossible that a Cyclone team that shows up at nationals could get 5th. I think that's still a far stretch but here are my ceiling guesses as we jump into the season here soon.

125 - 5th
133 - R12
141 - 4th
149 - 5th
157 - Champ
165 - N/A
174 - 7th
184 - 6th
197 - 4th (I honestly have no idea, but there are only a couple top level guys here.)
285 - 6th

8 AA's and a Champ should be close to a fantasy top 5.

This team would be bringing home a trophy, not just too 5.

my prediction is
125 - R12
133 - NQ
141 - 4th
149 - 6th
157 - 3rd
165 - DNQ
174 - R16
184 - R16
197 - 7th ( I really have no idea).
Hvy - 8th

I think this brings home a 6-8 place finish.

 

[JM4CY]

This team would be bringing home a trophy, not just too 5.

my prediction is
125 - R12
133 - NQ
141 - 4th
149 - 6th
157 - 3rd
165 - DNQ
174 - R16
184 - R16
197 - 7th ( I really have no idea).
Hvy - 8th

I think this brings home a 6-8 place finish.

Why doesn’t Colbray make at least the blood round?

 

[JM4CY]

Why doesn’t Colbray make at least the blood round?

Not arguing with you. Just curious

 

[CyCloneRastlinG]

This team would be bringing home a trophy, not just too 5.

my prediction is
125 - R12
133 - NQ
141 - 4th
149 - 6th
157 - 3rd
165 - DNQ
174 - R16
184 - R16
197 - 7th ( I really have no idea).
Hvy - 8th

I think this brings home a 6-8 place finish.

You are definitely right, but lets take a look at ideal scenarios for Michigan Penn State and Iowa...
Michigan 7 AA's and and possible 4 finalists.
Iowa a possible 10 AA's and 4 finalists.
Penn State possible 8/9 AA's and 3 finalists.
These are best case scenarios but theirs are much better than ours not including Oklahoma state or Ohio state yet.

I think you will be pretty close with 5-6 AA's and a top 8 finish. I would love to see it.

 

[crablegs]

Why doesn’t Colbray make at least the blood round?

That prediction was based on a Shapiro at 184. I'd need to reevaluate with Colbray, but would definitely have him higher (probably AA).

 

[cyclonenation5]

Agreed, this is definitely best case scenario and won’t happen. My main point was that it could happen if everything went right. Even with that 8 AA’s though I don’t think we’d crack the top 3 or 4. Those 5th-8th places typically don’t rack up near as many points as top 3 guys who put up bonus points and pin. Degen is the only one who has proven to be a consistent bonus point guy and could score a lot of points at nationals on the backside while the others seem to win by decision. All those AA points are wiped out by 2 or 3 really good finishes with bonus points on a Minnesota, NC State or Ohio State.

Adding up advancement and placement points, this team with your projection would score at least 90 points. That’s with 0 bonus/activity points added on.

With 95-100 points, I’d be shocked if that didn’t crack the top 3.

 

[CyCloneRastlinG]

Adding up advancement and placement points, this team with your projection would score at least 90 points. That’s with 0 bonus/activity points added on.

With 95-100 points, I’d be shocked if that didn’t crack the top 3.

The potential to have a good year is there. Let's hope they can stay healthy and perform now.

 

[ISU22CY]

I'm thinking we end up 6-8 when it's all said and done. Top 3 in Iowa Penn State and Michigan going at it. Ok State NC State probably dogging for the next two. After that looking at Us, Nebraska and Ohio State getting after the next 3 spots

 

[Stevetasker]

I saw Degen hinting at coming back for his 6th year on twitter. Any chance he would move to 57 & Carr go 65 next year?

 

[CyTwins]

Is there any talk about Small going down to 33? Obviously he’s not gonna beat Ian but maybe that’s too much of a cut for him now? Maybe he can’t beat Redding given the cut too. I don’t know.

The other thing is that Dresser made a point in the interview in the van to say the line up is going to be very fluid. I kind of thought that was weird given how veteran the line up is so I was wondering what he might be alluding too. Maybe he wanted to make it clear that at 33 (given he knew Gomez was done), 65 and 97 they are going to spend the year looking for “the guy”. Of course at 65 I think “the guy” might be wearing a different singlet right now.

Small has the ability to make 33. Up to him to do it

 

[WhizzerClone]

I agree with Crab, except i think Mackall gets to AA level with a 6-8 finish. That weight is pretty open after top 4 or so. Even with Colbray in at 84 i still dont think he AA’s. The lack of consistency is just not there. All the potential, but two different wrestlers show up it seems like. (Example: Gassed all Joe Smith match, but then couple weeks later goes out and beats Steirt). I hope he proves me wrong and the smaller cut helps.

 

[CyCloneRastlinG]

Small has the ability to make 33. Up to him to do it

From coaches press conference yesterday it sounds like Ramazan and Redding have another wrestle off today and if Ramazan wins there will be a 3rd at a later date. No mention of Small during the press conference but I'm sure there is more going on behind the scenes. Wartburg has the top ranked 133 in D3 so we will get any early look at how good Redding is out of the gates.

 

[stuclone]

I agree with Crab, except i think Mackall gets to AA level with a 6-8 finish. That weight is pretty open after top 4 or so. Even with Colbray in at 84 i still dont think he AA’s. The lack of consistency is just not there. All the potential, but two different wrestlers show up it seems like. (Example: Gassed all Joe Smith match, but then couple weeks later goes out and beats Steirt). I hope he proves me wrong and the smaller cut helps.

to be fair to Colbray, the Joe Smith match was one of his first times down to 174. I’m sure he was feeling the weight cut there which affected his match. I’m hoping he did a better job managing his weight this offseason so he gets off to a faster start than years past. Once he gets into the grove of managing his weight, he starts to kick it into gear.