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    Otzelberger's First Recruiting/Transfer Class - FULL

    Ya not to get too off topic, but THT was fine as a freshmen...he was drafted for his potential and he's done a really good job of improving in his time as a pro since. He had flashes but we just an ok guy on that team, under 100 ORTG and 30% from 3 that season. Could have had a huge sophomore...
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    Coach TJ’s Coaching StAff

    A lot to unpack here: First of all, Sean Sutton? I mean as far as I'm concerned the most impressive thing about Sean Sutton is his last name. Maybe I'm missing something but are you really sure that's a guy you'd rather have than D Rob? Also in regards to the list, it has Tang #1 and Adams #2...
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    So I Knew We Were Bad, But....

    Weber did what I think a lot of people with ISU did this past year, he committed to logging heavy minutes for his freshmen and let them work through things and figure things out. It produced rough results, but they are going to be better for it. Just look how they finished the year, they were...
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    Emergency Pod: What's next for ISU basketball?

    There seems to be a lot of picking apart different candidates that really turns into a question of what do you value the most? All the candidates are good candidates for a reason, but none are sure things or home runs, if they were they probably wouldn't be where they are right now / it wouldn't...
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    Emergency Pod: What's next for ISU basketball?

    I wasn't real excited about TJ initially, but I've come around to thinking he might be my personal lead choice. He clearly is a culture fit and has the desire to be in Ames and sell that same desire to recruits successfully which is a huge deal, not that other coaches can't, but that is a for...
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    *** Official Iowa State Season Thread ***

    Ya, I don't think a PG fixes the team to make them say a tournament team or anything like that, but I think it fixes the team to a level where they are respectable at least and probably finish about K-State and TCU, so still not in a good spot but it would certainly feel A LOT better than the...
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    *** Official Iowa State Season Thread ***

    It doesn't completely negate it. no. But I think a lot of the turnovers are guys trying too hard to create outside of what they are capable of because we don't have a point to do it regularly. I like Bolton a lot, but he's not a point guard and has 20.9% turnover rate according to KenPom, which...
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    *** Official Iowa State Season Thread ***

    That's quite the exaggeration....the roster is a problem but more so fit than actual talent imo. I mean Bolton, Coleman-Lands, Solo are all guys who have played P6 elsewhere or big important players on good isu teams in Solo's case. Same with Hinson once he plays. The 4 freshman are too early to...
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    Coaching Search: Place your bets

    Want: Craig Smith, Niko Medved Think: Smith or TJ Don't Want: TJ, I would be generally fine with TJ, just seems like generally the same issue people have with Prohm, good recruiter maybe a questionable coach...Daum carried those SDSU teams and his UNLV teams haven't been great...I dont...
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    Are the freshmen any good?

    That's the thing, nobody is arguing that winning basketball games matters the most and that it hasn't happened consistently enough or enough in general. Yet for some reason people seem imo blinded by their frustration with the end results to give any credit anywhere as if they are afraid that...
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    Are the freshmen any good?

    That's fine. I certainly think the NBA thing is slightly fluky but I think there's also slight substance to it. Agreed a lot of those guys were already there already but even Monte had 2 years with him and made gains both seasons. Nader made a huge jump his senior year with prohm, he was barely...
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    Are the freshmen any good?

    Its just the two sidedness that sucks. If a player succeeds: They did it on their own, they put in the work and got there alone. If player fails: Coach failed to develop them. Truth is definitely somewhere in the middle both pieces have to be there, yet on many of these Prohm commentaries is...
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    Are the freshmen any good?

    I've been admittedly too optimistic and gave CSP too long of a leash, but I will continue to fight back against the notion that seems to float around that he might as well be one of the worst coaches in all of college basketball and was a complete failure here. He's certainly had his...
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    Are the freshmen any good?

    Generally agree with a lot of the sentiment on here. I think reality is most these Freshman have been disappointing but there is also enough there to have some hope. I also think as much as its an excuse people don't want to hear...Covid effects this season hurt freshmen the most. No summer...
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    *** Official #18 Texas Tech vs IOWA STATE Game(Day) Thread ***

    Back on topic.... I'm worried about the turnovers, given we have stuggled in that area and that's where Tech is really good. But if we can clean those up I think we have a really good shot. Tech is good but I think solidly below the top tier in the Big12. This is a winnable game if we continue...
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    *** Official #2 Baylor vs IOWA STATE Game(Day) Thread ***

    I understand being annoyed that we had no timeouts left but, I think it shows the bigger issue in the fact that ISU down just 5 with 3 minutes left and instead of finding anything positive, its searching for a reason to criticize Prohm. I also think Timeouts in basketball are a bit overrated...
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    Prohm Defenders

    But that's part of my problem, at least give him credit for putting together the team together. Yet we have people throwing out Mark Turgeon who is widely considered a good recruiter underperforming coach as an upgrade to Prohm. We discredit years 1 and 2 cus they were too good to even mess up...
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    Prohm Defenders

    Kruger was also coming from UNLV at that point and ready to move back up (hence the OU move). Altman had jumped up and had not gotten Oregon rolling yet along with expectations and also had just been involved in a sexual assault scandal there too. Both situations MUCH different at the time...
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    Prohm Defenders

    His lows have been low, but his high's are too good to cast off as being a "bottom-feeding coach" Isu has been a top6 seed 8 times since 1997. 3 of those are under Prohm but yet people insist on discrediting him for all of those seasons. These bad seasons have been brutal I own that too from a...
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    Prohm Defenders

    I only bring it up because I think there's a lack of nuance in the fact that very few people ever give credit where credit is due for Prohm. People rail on the 2019 season like it was a huge coaching failure, but fail to hold other teams/coaches to that same standard. There are definitel flaws...
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