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    My hatred for KState is passing that of Iowa

    I haven't read this thread except for the title and the initial post, and am not going to... I will just say that the ISU fans I've met over the years have been real stand-up folks that I highly respect, that unlike almost every other fan base (except OSU) I have never met a Cyclone fan in...
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    Sagarin Ratings... ISU 29

    Alarson, he currently ranks ISU #36, above 6 SEC teams, 7 ACC teams, 6 BE teams, 7 B10 teams and 10 P12 teams. Not surprisingly, it is the human polls that are holding ISU down in that system. Just looking at the computers, you are #29 (the exact average, throwing out the highest and lowest...
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    SEC lovefest

    Right there withya, DSM4CY. Shoot, the B12 lost, what, 3 or 4 games total out of conference this year? We had the best record in non-conference matchups of any conference. Plus at any given time, teams in the bottom half of the B12 were competitive and could knock off any of the teams in the...
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    Sagarin Ratings... ISU 29

    The B12 is far and away the toughest conference this year, and ISU's record this year is absolutely NOT representative of how you guys play. I didn't get to be there for this year's game, but have been at the last two meetings between our schools and have enjoyed the games since I started...
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    SEC lovefest

    I agree completely. I will never forget several weeks ago when OSU and KSU took the game down to the wire, with OSU winning on the last play of the game, and the announcers of the 4-4 Vanderbilt vs 4-4 Florida game (the only game I could get on free tv at that moment in time, and I had it on for...
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    Big 12 = Best conference, now and going forward

    I'm with HFCS. The B12 has a grand total of 2 teams not bowl eligible. The B12 has two fewer teams than the SEC this year but just as many teams with winning records. The SEC has 1 more bowl eligible teams, but 9 of the 10 teams in the B12 rank higher in Jerry Palm's BCS simulator than 4 teams...