7 states file lawsuit against the NCAA over transfer restrictions

[Mr Janny]

Lawsuit accuses NCAA of antitrust violation in college athlete transfer rule

A federal lawsuit filed by a group of states alleges the NCAA’s transfer rule for college athletes violates antitrust law.

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The current, one-time, no penalty, rule is what they're targeting. They're asking for an injunction to stop it from being enforced.

“As long as the kid is in good academic standing and on track to graduate, that kid should be able to decide for him or herself what’s in their best interest, for their personal growth, their happiness, their economic opportunity. That is absolutely the American Way. And that’s a requirement of federal law. The rule offends that requirement.”

 

[HFCS]

Pro sports with no multi year contracts isn’t even ideal for the college athletes.

 

[ScottyP]

Lawsuit accuses NCAA of antitrust violation in college athlete transfer rule

A federal lawsuit filed by a group of states alleges the NCAA’s transfer rule for college athletes violates antitrust law.

apnews.com

The current, one-time, no penalty, rule is what they're targeting. They're asking for an injunction to stop it from being enforced.

“As long as the kid is in good academic standing and on track to graduate, that kid should be able to decide for him or herself what’s in their best interest, for their personal growth, their happiness, their economic opportunity. That is absolutely the American Way. And that’s a requirement of federal law. The rule offends that requirement.”

So unlimited transfer?

 

[Drew0311]

Lawsuit accuses NCAA of antitrust violation in college athlete transfer rule

A federal lawsuit filed by a group of states alleges the NCAA’s transfer rule for college athletes violates antitrust law.

apnews.com

The current, one-time, no penalty, rule is what they're targeting. They're asking for an injunction to stop it from being enforced.

“As long as the kid is in good academic standing and on track to graduate, that kid should be able to decide for him or herself what’s in their best interest, for their personal growth, their happiness, their economic opportunity. That is absolutely the American Way. And that’s a requirement of federal law. The rule offends that requirement.”

NCAA isn't saying they can't transfer. They just can't play if not done correctly. I don't understand this lawsuit

 

[Mr Janny]

Pro sports with no multi year contracts isn’t even ideal for the college athletes.

That model has been working for the vast majority of the business world.

 

[BoxsterCy]

Lawsuit accuses NCAA of antitrust violation in college athlete transfer rule

A federal lawsuit filed by a group of states alleges the NCAA’s transfer rule for college athletes violates antitrust law.

apnews.com

The current, one-time, no penalty, rule is what they're targeting. They're asking for an injunction to stop it from being enforced.

“As long as the kid is in good academic standing and on track to graduate, that kid should be able to decide for him or herself what’s in their best interest, for their personal growth, their happiness, their economic opportunity. That is absolutely the American Way. And that’s a requirement of federal law. The rule offends that requirement.”

Four years and four schools and "on track to graduate". LOL. Why not unlimited eligibility, why stop at four years and the five to play four? The one freebee transfer seemed like a big plus for students and don't think the sit out for a 2nd is all that onerous.

If this was pre-pay-to-play I won't care but now it's just pure play to pay, not transferring because of "happiness" for the big football and basketball elites and the elite wannabees.

 

[Mr Janny]

NCAA isn't saying they can't transfer. They just can't play if not done correctly. I don't understand this lawsuit

They'll argue that they're restricting their eligibility. And since the NCAA has an effective monopoly over the path to a professional career, antitrust laws come into play.

 

[MeowingCows]

There isn't going to be an NCAA at all soon here. It's turning into a meaningless organization.

 

[CycloneWanderer]

That model has been working for the vast majority of the business world.

Competitive balance is very much a concern for the vast majority of the business world. There are many laws set to help preserve it. Non-compete clauses are a thing. Anti-monopoly laws are a thing. Intellectual property and copyright laws are a thing.

 

[HFCS]

They'll argue that they're restricting their eligibility. And since the NCAA has an effective monopoly over the path to a professional career, antitrust laws come into play.

For fb it seems like only path.

For basketball now gleague, overtime elite and Europe are getting as many drafted as ncaa basketball. Maybe a majority, it’s at least close to a majority.

 

[CycloneWanderer]

For fb it seems like only path.

For basketball now gleague, overtime elite and Europe are getting as many drafted as ncaa basketball. Maybe a majority, it’s at least close to a majority.

I think this is the biggest problem currently. There needs to be minor league football. All this stuff about paying players, unlimited transfers, etc., all becomes less important if there are viable minor leagues in place. No one gives a **** if NCAA baseball players get paid - if they wanted to use their sport to make a living, they could have just gone pro. The NCAA bending over backwards for football players is going to **** over all the other sports.

 

[cykadelic2]

NCAA isn't saying they can't transfer. They just can't play if not done correctly. I don't understand this lawsuit

Those filing the lawsuit also don't understand the freedom of choice that recruits have in selecting their initial school and the vast amount of time/money invested by coaching staffs during that recruiting process. So it always has been a fair tradeoff to have a player sit out a season if they elect to transfer without losing a year of playing eligibility. Now exceptions can be made for head coaching changes and for grad transfers. But the immediate transfer eligibility rules, not NIL, is the primary cause of the existing and avoidable chaos existing in college sports.

 

[Cfinnerty16]

Dumb and these kids are free to transfer to any college they so wish. They just can't play. Heck, a kid could transfer to 5+ colleges, no problem! Freedom of movement. They just can't play.

 

[MeowingCows]

I think this is the biggest problem currently. There needs to be minor league football. All this stuff about paying players, unlimited transfers, etc., all becomes less important if there are viable minor leagues in place. No one gives a **** if NCAA baseball players get paid - if they wanted to use their sport to make a living, they could have just gone pro. The NCAA bending over backwards for football players is going to **** over all the other sports.

And the annoying part about that is that the NCAA is not the cause of there being no minor leagues of football that are useful and last. That's strictly due to a lack of market appetite. Other sports do just fine in this space. They're subjected to monopolistic treatment despite not doing anything to enforce a monopoly.

 

[cykadelic2]

They'll argue that they're restricting their eligibility. And since the NCAA has an effective monopoly over the path to a professional career, antitrust laws come into play.

It's not the NCAA's problem they have an effective monopoly. There is nothing that prevents any entity from forming an alternative FB league to the NFL or NCAA.

 

[HFCS]

I think this is the biggest problem currently. There needs to be minor league football. All this stuff about paying players, unlimited transfers, etc., all becomes less important if there are viable minor leagues in place. No one gives a **** if NCAA baseball players get paid - if they wanted to use their sport to make a living, they could have just gone pro.

Non nba fans would really be shocked how few ncaa players have been in last few drafts, it goes down every year. I’m not at all a fan of minor league and developmental league basketball in terms of watching it, but at this point if a kid doesn’t like going to school there is absolutely zero reason he needs to play college basketball to get drafted if he’s a legit player.

I don’t think it helps the nba because it doesn’t market their stars. But it does give the hs senior more options and give him more power. It’s still possibly overall better for the nba than when the were trending toward giving massive contracts to unproven hs kids.

 

[jbhtexas]

They'll argue that they're restricting their eligibility. And since the NCAA has an effective monopoly over the path to a professional career, antitrust laws come into play.

The NCAA didn't make the "effective monopoly" on career path. That exists because the professional sports leagues put restrictions on when high school graduates can join their leagues.

 

[CycloneWanderer]

The NCAA didn't make the "effective monopoly" on career path. That exists because the professional sports leagues put restrictions on when high school graduates can join their leagues.

Honestly, I think the players should be suing the professional leagues to change that, but I can understand that the NCAA is an easier target.

 

[Urbandale2013]

Politicians need to stop involving themselves in this. All they are doing is further breaking an already broken system.

 

[Mr Janny]

It's not the NCAA's problem they have an effective monopoly. There is nothing that prevents any entity from forming an alternative FB league to the NFL or NCAA.

It absolutely is their problem. The Sherman Antitrust act doesn't care if they chose to be a monopoly or if the monopoly developed organically. "It's not our fault that we're a monopoly" is not a winning legal argument.

And whether or not another entity could possibly be formed, isn't really relevant. Just because something could potentially exist, doesn't change the fact that athletes can incur harm, now, when surch an alternative doesn't exist.