SI puts a "value" on the P5 schools

[JP4CY]

https://www.si.com/college/2022/07/14/power-5-desirability-rankings-sec-big-ten-acc

 

[JM4CY]

Good ole academics weighing down Bama. I mean, priorities down there, right?

 

[psychlones]

Good ole academics weighing down Bama. I mean, priorities down there, right?

We're not much above them in that category, according to this chart...

 

[DeereClone]

Good ole academics weighing down Bama. I mean, priorities down there, right?

To be fair I don't see how academics matters at all in today's college football world. Would actually like to see the list with that metric dropped.

 

[BWRhasnoAC]

We're not much above them in that category, according to this chart...

The academics part is always weird to me. Is it just based on grades? Research money? Professors?

 

[Cyclonepride]

We're not much above them in that category, according to this chart...

But we are above them, so they're stupid

 

[CascadeClone]

I would guess a lot of people would disagree with ISU football rank at 15 vs Nebby at 45 and BYU at 50.

I think the other sports ranks are goofy too.

 

[alarson]

To be fair I don't see how academics matters at all in today's college football world. Would actually like to see the list with that metric dropped.

But you could say the same thing about most of the columns here aside from viewership and football success

 

[Bader]

I would guess a lot of people would disagree with ISU football rank at 15 vs Nebby at 45 and BYU at 50.

I think the other sports ranks are goofy too.

Football ranking: This is a five-year average of the Sagarin ratings from 2017 to ’21, using only the current and future Power 5 schools

Disagree with what they used if you want, but it's not like they're just eyeballing it

 

[JM4CY]

But we are above them, so they're stupid

 

[isutrevman]

https://www.si.com/college/2022/07/14/power-5-desirability-rankings-sec-big-ten-acc

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Interesting. I think there will be some re-shuffling over the next 10-15 years as some SEC and Big Ten programs become perennial losers or mediocre (Look how far Miami has already fallen) since someone has to loose those games. There is opportunity for a couple PAC12 and Big 12 programs to move up if they can win games and become a "powerhouse" in those conferences.

Honestly shocked Iowa State is ranked that high. For the lack of resources we have, our AD is killing it.

 

[isutrevman]

Football ranking: This is a five-year average of the Sagarin ratings from 2017 to ’21, using only the current and future Power 5 schools

Disagree with what they used if you want, but it's not like they're just eyeballing it

11 spots higher than Iowa and we've managed to lose 6 straight?

 

[Clonehomer]

Gotta imagine our viewership has taken a hit based on the timeslots and channels we're on vs some of the teams above us. Hopefully, without OuT, we can get a bit higher in the pecking order for the conference.

 

[Cloneon]

I would guess a lot of people would disagree with ISU football rank at 15 vs Nebby at 45 and BYU at 50.

I think the other sports ranks are goofy too.

Yeh, for anyone over 50 it's a surprise, but this is the new ISU.

 

[alarson]

11 spots higher than Iowa and we've managed to lose 6 straight?
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I'll take that over the opposite though.

I'll take a loss every year against Iowa if it means we're contending for big 12 championships.

 

[BMWallace]

For anyone wondering about their methodology for setting up the rankings in each category:

• Football Ranking: 2017-2021 average Sagarin ranking
• Academic Ranking: US News & World Report's 2021 university ranking
• All Sports Ranking: 2021-22 Directors cup standings
• Attendance: reported home game attendance 2017-21 (omit 2020)
• Viewership: total viewership count of games with 1M+ viewers from 2017-21 (omit 2020)

Looking only at the last 5 years helps ISU due to our football success in that period. If this was a 10-year or 20-year average, I would expect us to be much lower.

Also, I'm curious why they took the 5 year average of category except the Director's Cup standings. Not sure how much that would change, it just seems odd to have that inconsistency.

 

[Clonedogg]

The exercise is an interesting way to try an put value to the school's ADs.

"The average school ranking for each Power 5 conference, using future membership: SEC 25.1, Big Ten 25.8, ACC 39.6, Pac-12 41.4, Big 12 49.3." The Big12 in last but it'd be interesting to see that after a few years of the new 4 getting more intriguing matchups and better TV accessibility. As UCF, Cincy and Houston were all near the bottom.

 

[theshadow]

Also, I'm curious why they took the 5 year average of category except the Director's Cup standings. Not sure how much that would change, it just seems odd to have that inconsistency.

There was no Directors Cup in 19-20, so it was probably easier to take 1 year instead of taking a 5-year stretch with a hole in the middle.

 

[isutrevman]

I'll take that over the opposite though.

I'll take a loss every year against Iowa if it means we're contending for big 12 championships.

Agree, but we've only contended once.

 

[TXCyclones]

To be fair I don't see how academics matters at all in today's college football world. Would actually like to see the list with that metric dropped.

Ranking w/o Academics	Overall ranking	School	Football rank	All sports	Attendance	Viewership	Total
1​	1	Ohio State	2	4	3	2(t)	11
2​	2	Michigan	16	3	1	5(t)	25
3​	4	Texas	12(t)	1	7	7(t)	27
4​	8	Oklahoma	5	10	13	1	29
5​	10	Alabama	1	21	4	4	30
6​	3	Notre Dame	6	8	16	2(t)	32
7​	5	Georgia	3	18	8	5(t)	34
8​	6.	Florida	18	5	12	12(t)	47
9​	14	LSU	14	16	6	11	47
10​	7	Wisconsin	8	23	15	12(t)	58
11​	12	Texas A&M	12(t)	24	5	18(t)	59
12​	11	Penn State	7	41	2	10	60
13​	13	Auburn	11	31	11	12(t)	65
14​	9	USC	30	12	23(t)	9	74
15​	16	Clemson	4	58	14	7(t)	83
16​	25	(tie) Oklahoma St.	10	22	30	24(t)	86
17​	15	Washington	25	27	19	16(t)	87
18​	20	Michigan State	27	39	18	15	99
19​	21	Iowa	9	52	20	21(t)	102
20​	22	(tie) Oregon	20	30	36	18(t)	104
21​	24	Tennessee	54	13	9	28(t)	104
22​	28	Mississippi	35	19	31	23	108
23​	19	Florida State	56	14	21(t)	21(t)	112
24​	27	Iowa State	15	40	23(t)	35	113
25​	34	Arkansas	60	7	25	24(t)	116
26​	33	Nebraska	46(t)	47	10	16(t)	119
27​	17	Stanford	42(t)	2	54	24(t)	122
28​	30	(tie) Arizona St.	23(t)	25	38	36(t)	122
29​	18	UCLA	43	15	40(t)	28(t)	126
30​	40	Kentucky	26	9	32	61(t)	128
31​	25	(tie) Miami	23(t)	48	34	24(t)	129
32​	44	Mississippi St.	21	63	28	20	132
33​	30	(tie) NC State	37	17	26(t)	53(t)	133
34​	22	(tie) N. Carolina	48(t)	6	39	41(t)	134
35​	35	(tie) Utah	17	42	42	34	135
36​	38	TCU	22	38	49	31	140
37​	43	S. Carolina	52	36	17	36(t)	141
38​	49	West Virginia	29	56	29	28(t)	142
39​	35	(tie) Virginia Tech	41	32	21(t)	49(t)	143
40​	41	BYU	50	28	26(t)	41(t)	145
41​	39	Minnesota	28	27	45	49(t)	149
42​	32	Virginia	48(t)	1	51	52	152
43​	51	Texas Tech	44(t)	37	33	41(t)	155
44​	29	Northwestern	38	35	58	32(t)	163
45​	42	Purdue	36	51	35	45(t)	167
46​	45	Baylor	39(t)	45	47	36(t)	167
47​	55	(tie) Louisville	53	33	44	45(t)	175
48​	35	(tie) Indiana	42	57	48	36(t)	183
49​	47	Pittsburgh	33	62	52	36(t)	183
50​	55	(tie) UCF	19	67	50	49(t)	185
51​	53	Missouri	44(t)	53	37	53(t)	187
52​	58	Kansas State	31	64	40(t)	53(t)	188
53​	46	California	55	26	55	58(t)	194
54​	48	Wake Forest	32	43	66	58(t)	199
55​	52	Maryland	58	44	57	41(t)	200
56​	64	Washington St.	39(t)	65	64	32(t)	200
57​	57	Colorado	61	54	43	45(t)	203
58​	66	Cincinnati	34	69	62	45(t)	210
59​	54	Georgia Tech	62	60	36	53(t)	211
60​	61	Arizona	65	34	53	61(t)	213
61​	50	Duke	63	20	69	67(t)	219
62​	59	Illinois	66	50	59	58(t)	233
63​	60	Syracuse	59	61	60	53(t)	233
64​	67	Oregon State	64	41	63	67(t)	235
65​	65	Rutgers	67	46	56	67(t)	236
66​	62	Boston College	51	66	61	66	244
67​	69	Houston	57	68	65	63(t)	253
68​	68	Kansas	69	55	68	63(t)	255
69​	63	Vanderbilt	68	59	67	63(t)	257