WCC Tourney Bracket…I’ve never seen this
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Goodman said on the Field of 68 podcast that Mark Few had a big say in the structure of the conference tournament so it makes sense
That's absolutely pathetic and goes against the spirit of competition and fair play. I would absolutely penalize them by worsening their seeds in the tourney. And I say that having a cousin that played sports as Gonzaga.
Santa Clara ducked Portland for basically no reason a couple of weeks ago:
www.oregonlive.com
"The Santa Clara men’s basketball team no longer wanted to plays its makeup games against conference opponents, so the Broncos were backing out of written agreements to do so."
"But there is another theory. Santa Clara (17-9, 7-4) just happens to be bouncing around the NCAA Tournament bubble, and it’s plausible the Broncos backed out on UP because they didn’t want to risk suffering a resume-crushing loss to the pesky Pilots."
Portland Pilots ‘frustrated and disappointed’ after Santa Clara backs out of men’s basketball game
Santa Clara backed out of a written agreement to play a makeup game at Portland on Monday night.
"The Santa Clara men’s basketball team no longer wanted to plays its makeup games against conference opponents, so the Broncos were backing out of written agreements to do so."
"But there is another theory. Santa Clara (17-9, 7-4) just happens to be bouncing around the NCAA Tournament bubble, and it’s plausible the Broncos backed out on UP because they didn’t want to risk suffering a resume-crushing loss to the pesky Pilots."
And because of the missing games, the WCC made up a seeding formula with KenPom instead of using actual W-L standings.
wccsports.com
Seedings for UCU WCC Men's and Women's basketball Tournament
For the second year in a row, the West Coast Conference and renowned college basketball statistical analyst Ken Pomeroy have collaborated to develop a comprehensive model to seed the University Credit Union West Coast Conference Men’s and Women’s Basketball Tournament.
Which drives me nuts because it's a proprietary algorithm.And because of the missing games, the WCC made up a seeding formula with KenPom instead of using actual W-L standings.
Seedings for UCU WCC Men's and Women's basketball Tournament
For the second year in a row, the West Coast Conference and renowned college basketball statistical analyst Ken Pomeroy have collaborated to develop a comprehensive model to seed the University Credit Union West Coast Conference Men’s and Women’s Basketball Tournament.
Seems like something Texas would do if they actually won stuff.
I kinda like it for some of those smaller conferences that are generally only one or two bid leagues. It makes it more difficult for a middle tier avg team to win the tournament.
And maybe more importantly it gives the top teams more rest. Why not reward the better teams?
Conference tournaments, while fun for fans, are going to start becoming obsolete, especially if (when) they expand the ncaa tournament.
And maybe more importantly it gives the top teams more rest. Why not reward the better teams?
Conference tournaments, while fun for fans, are going to start becoming obsolete, especially if (when) they expand the ncaa tournament.
Ehhh, I don't think it's too big of an issue, and I think it makes sense as a way to reward regular season success. This is especially true in years where your 1 or 2 seed are "on the bubble" and you don't want a bid thief. The OVC does something similar.
If/when South Dakota State loses in the Summit League tourney because they have to play 3 conference tournament games after going 18-0 in league play, I'm guessing the Summit would have wished they had a format like the WCC or OVC as well.
If/when South Dakota State loses in the Summit League tourney because they have to play 3 conference tournament games after going 18-0 in league play, I'm guessing the Summit would have wished they had a format like the WCC or OVC as well.
I don't like it, but I understand it, for exactly what you are saying. Reduces the chance of losing your conf champ to an upset.
What I don't like, is it essentially takes the upset fun factor away from fans, and from the players of the lower teams. You gotta win FIVE in a row against increasing degree of difficulty, vs teams that are also rested! To make the dance, that's a tough ticket.
For a Big12 bottom feeder, you have to win 4, but you have a chance to play another upset winner and they played yesterday just like you did. Still a longshot, but at least it isn't nigh impossible.
Other conferences to it as well. As a mid-major conference that is normally a 1-2 bid league I can understand wanting to reward a team for 3 months of play and better position them for a post season bid.
Is this a bowling tournament or a
Basketball tournament?
Basketball tournament?
I understand some criticism of this. I definitely wouldn't like it as a fan of a team that wasn't one of the top 2 WCC teams. But for people who always worry about the devaluation of the regular season - a format like this dramatically increases the importance of each regular season conference game.
The Ohio Valley uses the same setup.
I get if for low majors because if you want any shot at all at winning a game and getting an extra tournament share, you want your best teams to be in the dance.
Gonzaga doing it is pure chickenshit.
I get if for low majors because if you want any shot at all at winning a game and getting an extra tournament share, you want your best teams to be in the dance.
Gonzaga doing it is pure chickenshit.
Wasn't Gonzaga flirting with leaving the WCC a few years back? I'd imagine this is the leverage you have when you're one of the country's top programs in a league that most people wouldn't pay much attention to otherwise.
Yeah, it's against the spirit of fair play. But in the grand scheme it doesn't seem any worse than bloated superleagues where middling teams inflate their win totals by ducking the top teams three out of four seasons. Neither are good for the sport.
Yeah, it's against the spirit of fair play. But in the grand scheme it doesn't seem any worse than bloated superleagues where middling teams inflate their win totals by ducking the top teams three out of four seasons. Neither are good for the sport.
I actually think this is great for these smaller conferences. Actually gives some meaning to the regular season. Look at the MVC. UNI won the regular season but what did it really mean? Not much.