Students have choice of P/F or grade this semester

[Sparkplug]

Just saw a short article on DMR that students can take their grades this semester or change to a P/F.

Wondering what the students were told about GPA, if they allowed late drops, can they take P/F on a required class, ......................

 

[CycloneErik]

Here, from the provost a week ago:

https://www.provost.iastate.edu/aca...cted-by-the-transition-to-virtual-instruction

Nice job by the Register there.
Drop deadline was extended to something. There's a lot of flexibility here.
And line 2: This counts for required coursework. If it didn't, there's no point.

 

[BCClone]

Just saw a short article on DMR that students can take their grades this semester or change to a P/F.

Wondering what the students were told about GPA, if they allowed late drops, can they take P/F on a required class, ......................

All the son was told so far is that he can go p/f and determine it by May 10th area or so. So it sounds like they are letting kids get to around finals and decide if they want a poor grade on their transcript. Not be told if that counts against their total or not though,

 

[Gonzo]

Waiting for announcement on pro-rating housing and dining services for the 2-3 months they're not being used.

 

[Sparkplug]

Here, from the provost a week ago:

https://www.provost.iastate.edu/aca...cted-by-the-transition-to-virtual-instruction.

So they can see their final grade then make the decision? Did I read that right?

 

[CycloneErik]

So they can see their final grade then make the decision? Did I read that right?

Absolutely. It's all about reducing the impact of the chaos on the student.

 

[BCClone]

So they can see their final grade then make the decision? Did I read that right?

That is basically what my son and I understand.

 

[jbindm]

Absolutely. It's all about reducing the impact of the chaos on the student.

Sounds fair to me. At Drake they're offering something similar, but not for the program I'm in. So that kind of sucks.

 

[cmjh10]

Waiting for announcement on pro-rating housing and dining services for the 2-3 months they're not being used.

You know the answer to that

 

[Gonzo]

You know the answer to that

We'll see. They'll catch hell if they don't offer some of it back. Other state universities already have. Yes it would be a financial hit but ISU has a $1.1 billion endowment. Whether that's what it's there for or not, these aren't normal times. Would be a pretty cruel slap in the face to families of their students to not.

 

[Entropy]

Here, from the provost a week ago:

https://www.provost.iastate.edu/aca...cted-by-the-transition-to-virtual-instruction

Nice job by the Register there.
Drop deadline was extended to something. There's a lot of flexibility here.
And line 2: This counts for required coursework. If it didn't, there's no point.

We are debating this for Kirkwood at the moment, trying to determine if we can follow suit of the regents.
Figuring out what will be accepted when students transfer, how accrediting groups will accept this, etc.

 

[CycloneErik]

We are debating this for Kirkwood at the moment, trying to determine if we can follow suit of the regents.
Figuring out what will be accepted when students transfer, how accrediting groups will accept this, etc.

DMACC just signed on to it. I assume you guys will soon.

All this reminds me that, after reading the dates again in the announcement, I'll need to let students know specifically to do that through their advisors.
I would sign anything, but my contract ends May 15th, so my online access to anything will be cut right off.

 

[BCClone]

We'll see. They'll catch hell if they don't offer some of it back. Other state universities already have. Yes it would be a financial hit but ISU has a $1.1 billion endowment. Whether that's what it's there for or not, these aren't normal times. Would be a pretty cruel slap in the face to families of their students to not.

I would be satisfied with the 7 weeks of board that my kid can't use. The room doesn't cost me much more but the food bill got fully transferred to me and ISU doesn't have to purchase anything, have to pay students any employment hours and I'm sure there are several other savings they will have. Even utilities in the dorms will drop hard. I went down monday and got the son's stuff, ghost town. Saw two other kids and 2-3 janitors and that was it.

 

[BCClone]

We'll see. They'll catch hell if they don't offer some of it back. Other state universities already have. Yes it would be a financial hit but ISU has a $1.1 billion endowment. Whether that's what it's there for or not, these aren't normal times. Would be a pretty cruel slap in the face to families of their students to not.

What have the other universities done?

 

[Gonzo]

I would be satisfied with the 7 weeks of board that my kid can't use. The room doesn't cost me much more but the food bill got fully transferred to me and ISU doesn't have to purchase anything, have to pay students any employment hours and I'm sure there are several other savings they will have. Even utilities in the dorms will drop hard. I went down monday and got the son's stuff, ghost town. Saw two other kids and 2-3 janitors and that was it.

Agree. Not trying to be a shyster, but my daughter won't have stepped foot in a university cafeteria for 2-3 months, would seem pretty unfair to expect us to continue paying for those services.

 

[CycloneErik]

Agree. Not trying to be a shyster, but my daughter won't have stepped foot in a university cafeteria for 2-3 months, would seem pretty unfair to expect us to continue paying for those services.

Yeah, they'll need to do something. It's a fair expectation, especially with limited expenses now.

 

[Gonzo]

What have the other universities done?

UNL has offered 60% refund of room and board costs between March 15 and the end of the year.

Michigan State is offering $1,120 credit to students leaving campus by April 12.

Small private colleges and universities are going to be the ones that resist room/board refunds as much as possible given how cash strapped they already are.

 

[Sparkplug]

If a student was on academic probation they may have be thrown a life preserver

 

[Cycsk]

I would be satisfied with the 7 weeks of board that my kid can't use. The room doesn't cost me much more but the food bill got fully transferred to me and ISU doesn't have to purchase anything, have to pay students any employment hours and I'm sure there are several other savings they will have. Even utilities in the dorms will drop hard. I went down monday and got the son's stuff, ghost town. Saw two other kids and 2-3 janitors and that was it.

Anybody hear how private landlords are handling it? I've seen a few piles of "belongings" by the side of the road that look like what we see during Turnover Week.

 

[Cycsk]

Just saw a short article on DMR that students can take their grades this semester or change to a P/F.

Wondering what the students were told about GPA, if they allowed late drops, can they take P/F on a required class, ......................

GPA's have become a bit of a joke with grade inflation. Does anybody actually get C's and D's anymore? I already think of most A's and B's as not much more than indications of a passing grade. And C's and D's are often just charity for a prof not willing to flunk someone.

Show me a system of grading that is truly based on competencies, then you'll have my attention. Most grades are scores about how someone "took a course," not the actual competencies of the course. If a competent person who didn't take the course can't pass the final exam, then the prof is assessing the course, not the competencies.