RECRUITING: Caleb Grill (commits!)
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“I think (comfortability) will have a big thing to do with (the decision). All three schools meet certain criteria so that’s just going to be a big factor in where I decide to go to school.”
Sounds like he likes all three schools, but that quote sounded like it's TJ's and UNLV's to lose based off of the comfortability comment.
Sounds like he likes all three schools, but that quote sounded like it's TJ's and UNLV's to lose based off of the comfortability comment.
I’ve never once learned anything from a a post visit write up.
“Visit went well”
“Loved the facilities”
“Got along great with players”
Hot take alert: Obviously it would be nice to get Wheeler or Grill but part of me almost wants to see what happens if we don’t and who we would then target. Hearing new names is always exciting and we would if we missed on all 3 HS targets. I’m only saying this because even though I liked all 3 spring HS targets, I don’t think any of them are the difference between NIT or NCAA Tournament. I think the biggest thing keeping me from wanting to miss out on these guys is that I want Prohm to be successful and the hate he would get if he missed all 3 would be crazy.
Ehhh....it could be that when he talks about comfortable, he's talking about the atmosphere of the school. Iowa State, Kansas State, and SDSU are quite different than UNLV.
Assuming that the comment is about TJ is silly. We have no idea.
Didn't use "we" when talking about the team.....not good.
There aren’t any HS kids left to target who are at this level guard wise.. at least not that I’ve seen..
Think it’s KSU to lose..
On to plan C
Has there been a discussion, and I just missed it, that now we know for certain the top schools (and even some average schools like Creighton) are paying to get the best players, what a disadvantage it is to a guy like Prohm who only has a scholarship, fan support and great facilities to convince a kid to come here? Tough to be the one with morals when all around you is immorality.
That’s a high bar you’re setting. A newcomer guard would need to be a first or second team All-Big 12 to singularly make the difference imo. And even that’s probably not enough if the returning guys do not significantly improve.
A top-100 pg like Wheeler or a pg recruit coveted by guys like Huggins would definitely increases the odds of making the tournament. Grill seems a little more redundant with Nixon, but adding another asset increases the odds someone is a pleasant surprise, and could make a difference in 2020-21.
If KSU has both a Weber and a Grill I’m going to boycott basketball
That’s kinda what I mean by my post. I don’t think these guys are huge year 1 impact type guys so missing on all 3 wouldn’t be the end of the world to me. They’d be nice 4 year additions but I’m more concerned with what Gilder and Wigginton decide. Those guys are possibly the difference between tournament and no tournament.
Last year point per game averages and how I could see next year shaping up. (As of now)
Shayok 18.7
Wigginton 13.5
Horton-Tucker 11.8
Jacobson 11.1
Weiler-Babb 9.1
Haliburton 6.8
Lard 5.6
Who on the roster could replace those scoring numbers? Here’s my hope.
-Jacobson does what he did last year.
-Nixon averages around what THT did.
-Haliburton averages around what NWB did.
-Solomon and Conditt should be able to give you what Lard gave us last year. I think our 3 bigs last year and our 3 bigs this year should be able to repeat what they gave us last year.
-One of the freshman gives you 5/6 points per game like Haliburton was able to give. That could be Leech, Jackson or maybe a Wheeler/Grill/Anderson.
Now the issue I see is who replaces Shayok’s 18 and Wigginton’s 13.5? I don’t think we have anybody on roster or coming in that can give you that. Dream scenario would be you get Gilder and he replaces Wigginton’s 13.5 and then Wigginton comes back and he has a monster year and replaces Shayok’s 18.7
This is a tournament team I think.
Wigginton 18
Gilder 13
Nixon 11
Jacobson 11
Haliburton 9
Young 6
Conditt 5
Jackson/Leech 5
I understand that is not likely to happen but it’s the most realistic scenario that I can come up with in which Iowa State returns to the tournament.
Shayok 18.7
Wigginton 13.5
Horton-Tucker 11.8
Jacobson 11.1
Weiler-Babb 9.1
Haliburton 6.8
Lard 5.6
Who on the roster could replace those scoring numbers? Here’s my hope.
-Jacobson does what he did last year.
-Nixon averages around what THT did.
-Haliburton averages around what NWB did.
-Solomon and Conditt should be able to give you what Lard gave us last year. I think our 3 bigs last year and our 3 bigs this year should be able to repeat what they gave us last year.
-One of the freshman gives you 5/6 points per game like Haliburton was able to give. That could be Leech, Jackson or maybe a Wheeler/Grill/Anderson.
Now the issue I see is who replaces Shayok’s 18 and Wigginton’s 13.5? I don’t think we have anybody on roster or coming in that can give you that. Dream scenario would be you get Gilder and he replaces Wigginton’s 13.5 and then Wigginton comes back and he has a monster year and replaces Shayok’s 18.7
This is a tournament team I think.
Wigginton 18
Gilder 13
Nixon 11
Jacobson 11
Haliburton 9
Young 6
Conditt 5
Jackson/Leech 5
I understand that is not likely to happen but it’s the most realistic scenario that I can come up with in which Iowa State returns to the tournament.
How are we going to scrimmage though? Isn’t that concerning?
Barttorvik projections of the same right now (assuming no roster changes) --
15.9 -- Nixon
13.5 -- Haliburton
11.7 -- Young
10.2 -- Jacobson
7.4 -- Lewis
6.5 -- Anderson
3.5 -- Conditt
3.2 -- Jackson
2.5 -- Leech
2.1 -- Griffin
Adding up the top eight, assuming that is your rotation, equals 68.7.
Your top eight at the bottom (starts with Wigginton, ends with Jackson/Leech) was 78.
Just to provide some context.
I think either Terrance or Zion or maybe both are going to surprise a lot of people on this board. Some kids just take a little longer to emerge. They were both highly rated and had quite a few decent offers coming out of high school. I could see them in the 6-10 points/game area.
Conditt and SY will give more than double what lard did.. SY can avg 8-10 ppg..
I think this teams success will be on defensive end.. but landing a solid grad transfer will be diff between .500 team and tourbey team prob..