Bracketology 2024

That's the biggest thing I think I've gotten from this years committee, a bunch of good wins with a few bad losses outweighs a handful of good wins with no bad losses. Except for Alabama who only has 2 Q1 wins the last I checked and a lot of Q1 losses, thats the one team where I really don't see an argument putting them ahead of ISU. I don't think Kansas should be either but I at least get the argument that they have great non con wins
Pretty much everyone has them seeded above Iowa State right now and I just don’t get it. Bama is getting a lot of credit for Q2 wins.
 
Pretty much everyone has them seeded above Iowa State right now and I just don’t get it. Bama is getting a lot of credit for Q2 wins.
I know it it's crazy to me, I guess that's the only argument but thats pretty weak IMHO
 
Honest opinion? For being "reported" by the 10 or so people who seem to dumb, hate, or vehemently respond to any post I have regardless of the content. Also, in all honesty, I'm personally attacked more than anyone on this board (and by a large margin). I'm not really crying about that in and of itself, but find it ludicrous people can vehemently attack me for something they don't agree with only to report me for (sometimes) responding to those attacks.

Why not just put me on ignore? Those are questions the posters nor the mods really want to address.
You'd be chatting alone if everyone put you on ignore.
 
That's hardly true.

Being on a Houston board and saying "hey, we are pretty trash at defensive rebounding, an area where our bigs particularly have issues" is far from "throwing the team under the bus". We literally have one of the worst defensive rebounding rates in D1 since the beginning of the year (sorted on Torvik to account for start of conference season). If you isolate on our bigs they often lose rebounds where they had (either) A) superior positioning B) mistimed jumps C) Didn't (literally) grab the ball D) Had overwhelming numbers (didn't body up). It's not just one of our bigs, Ward, BRE, and King are all guilty to varying degrees and for varying reasons.

That game was set up for us to get pummeled on the boards as Houston is a very GOOD rebounding team and are good at home. They are 3rd and 4th in conference in off and def rebounding rates, while we are 4th in off and DEAD LAST on the defensive glass in away games. Wouldn't you know it, we go out and probably put up our best rebounding game of the year. Tre actually bodied up and timed his jumps well. Milan was better than usual which helped immensely. We were also killer on the offensive glass.

That's hardly trashing the team. That's called not being a homer and giving an honest take on an opponent board. Not sure what's wrong with that.
There's your poor presentation again.
 
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Pretty much everyone has them seeded above Iowa State right now and I just don’t get it. Bama is getting a lot of credit for Q2 wins.
They are being rewarded for aggressive scheduling. We are being punished for it.

Seems like we go in circles.

Now is when someone replies with something about how if Orlando broke differently, or if ISU didn't get DePaul this schedule would be perceived differently.

All things considered we are in a great position. We knew in November our noncon was going to limit our ceiling to some extent, we just didn't think ISU would come on so strong in league play and present an edge-case for seeding.
 
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They are being rewarded for aggressive scheduling. We are being punished for it.

Seems like we go in circles.

Now is when someone replies with something about how if Orlando broke differently, or if he didn't get DePaul this schedule would be perceived differently.

All things considered we are in a great position. We knew in November our noncon was going to limit our ceiling to some extent, we just didn't think ISU would come on so strong in league play and present an edge-case for seeding.
yeah I get it but at some point you have to win some of those games if that’s how you are going to schedule. Losing to a bunch of good teams shouldn’t be a reward unless you are a mid major.
 
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Honest opinion? For being "reported" by the 10 or so people who seem to dumb, hate, or vehemently respond to any post I have regardless of the content. Also, in all honesty, I'm personally attacked more than anyone on this board (and by a large margin). I'm not really crying about that in and of itself, but find it ludicrous people can vehemently attack me for something they don't agree with only to report me for (sometimes) responding to those attacks.

Why not just put me on ignore? Those are questions the posters nor the mods really want to address.

How easy is it for you to walk through doorways with such an inflated ego?

If you don’t like people’s opinions or “personal attacks” as you call them, then why don’t you put them on ignore? People don’t like the rhetoric venom you spew against ISU people on here along with fact your arrogance you bring with your posts. You are one of those folks that thinks they know everything on here, then get super defensive when people don’t agree with what you say. Your immaturity on here really stands out.
 
They are being rewarded for aggressive scheduling. We are being punished for it.

Seems like we go in circles.

Now is when someone replies with something about how if Orlando broke differently, or if he didn't get DePaul this schedule would be perceived differently.

All things considered we are in a great position. We knew in November our noncon was going to limit our ceiling to some extent, we just didn't think ISU would come on so strong in league play and present an edge-case for seeding.
Agree. We were ******** about our crappy non-con months ago...Jamie "trolled" us on Twitter, and here we are. We manipulated the NET but the committee paid attention. It's OK. Jamie can suck a fat one for trying to put us in our place.
 
Agree. We were ******** about our crappy non-con months ago...Jamie "trolled" us on Twitter, and here we are. We manipulated the NET but the committee paid attention. It's OK. Jamie can suck a fat one for trying to put us in our place.
Our non- conference wasn't much worse than last year and I didn't hear anyone complain. Villanova and North Carolina both sucked so it looked alot better on paper than it actually was.
 
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They are being rewarded for aggressive scheduling. We are being punished for it.

Seems like we go in circles.

Now is when someone replies with something about how if Orlando broke differently, or if ISU didn't get DePaul this schedule would be perceived differently.

All things considered we are in a great position. We knew in November our noncon was going to limit our ceiling to some extent, we just didn't think ISU would come on so strong in league play and present an edge-case for seeding.
I'm not coming at you at all but want to know your opinion, do you consider Gonzaga's schedule harder than ours because they always schedule aggressively in the non con? Overall strength of schedule is 52 for ISU and 143 for Gonzaga. I only ask because it sure seems like the committee and a lot of college bball people do and give Gonzaga a pass, most years when they are elite, for the conference they play in. I think you have to look at the whole schedule and ISU being 52 is perfect IMHO
 
I'm not coming at you at all but want to know your opinion, do you consider Gonzaga's schedule harder than ours because they always schedule aggressively in the non con? Overall strength of schedule is 52 for ISU and 143 for Gonzaga. I only ask because it sure seems like the committee and a lot of college bball people do and give Gonzaga a pass, most years when they are elite, for the conference they play in. I think you have to look at the whole schedule and ISU being 52 is perfect IMHO
I think the question isn't where the combined SOS ranking lands. It's bad for the sport to reward half of the season being irrelevant stat padding by the power conference schools.

We had a top 10 NET with a SOS something like 350 out of 362 in noncon. The last thing committee will do is reward that and have more schools doing it.
 
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I think the question isn't whether the combined SOS lands. It's bad for the sport to reward half of the season being irrelevant stat padding by the power conference schools.

We had a top 10 NET with a SOS something like 350 out of 362 in noncon. The last thing committee will do is reward that and have more schools doing it.
I think it's important for the committee to flat out come out and say they look just at non con SOS as a criteria because if it's not I'm not changing a thing if I'm TJ when I know I will have a top 50ish schedule built in.
 
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Agree. We were ******** about our crappy non-con months ago...Jamie "trolled" us on Twitter, and here we are. We manipulated the NET but the committee paid attention. It's OK. Jamie can suck a fat one for trying to put us in our place.
Our Torvik ranking is 5th. If you want to be angry at Jamie better pick a different reason.
 
I think the question isn't where the combined SOS ranking lands. It's bad for the sport to reward half of the season being irrelevant stat padding by the power conference schools.

We had a top 10 NET with a SOS something like 350 out of 362 in noncon. The last thing committee will do is reward that and have more schools doing it.
It's not bad for the sport for half the season being irrelevant stat padding for playing in a crappy conference?

The only thing out of conference SOS is to basically break a tie between two close teams.
 
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I'm not coming at you at all but want to know your opinion, do you consider Gonzaga's schedule harder than ours because they always schedule aggressively in the non con? Overall strength of schedule is 52 for ISU and 143 for Gonzaga. I only ask because it sure seems like the committee and a lot of college bball people do and give Gonzaga a pass, most years when they are elite, for the conference they play in. I think you have to look at the whole schedule and ISU being 52 is perfect IMHO
Exactly fly. No other conference has a 2 month grind like the Big 12. The whole non con SOS obsession has to be weighed differently for different teams. The conference slate should carry a lot more weight IMO.
 
It's not bad for the sport for half the season being irrelevant stat padding for playing in a crappy conference?

The only thing out of conference SOS is to basically break a tie between two close teams.
Gonzaga doesn't choose their league games. They do choose their non con. They chose to play Kentucky, Purdue, UConn, Syracuse, UCLA, Washington, USC and San Diego State. Some of that is Maui but others were standalone.
 
We're not being victimized.

I'm assuming TJ asked for a lighter non con this year due to the roster turnover and dependency on freshmen.

In turn that likely led to someone scheduling some bad teams and getting DePaul in the challenge.

Then it turns out we didn't play the better teams in the tournament because we lost to the middle teams.

And iowa stinks.

And then this team goes on an improbable growth spurt and finds itself challenging for conference championship.

I wouldn't change a thing and am beyond excited that we're in a position to be thinking about a final four, regardless whether we get there as a 2 or 3 seed.

I'm confident TJ and Jamie will develop a schedule that matches the team next year as well once they know the final team composition.
 
Gonzaga doesn't choose their league games. They do choose their non con. They chose to play Kentucky, Purdue, UConn, Syracuse, UCLA, Washington, USC and San Diego State. Some of that is Maui but others were standalone.
It doesn’t matter. They get all of those teams early in the season when they haven’t hit their stride too. Gonzaga literally goes through the motions for Jan and Feb and they are well rested come tourney time. That matters too.
 
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I think the question isn't where the combined SOS ranking lands. It's bad for the sport to reward half of the season being irrelevant stat padding by the power conference schools.

We had a top 10 NET with a SOS something like 350 out of 362 in noncon. The last thing committee will do is reward that and have more schools doing it.
I also think it is bad to punish a school for having a super high conference SOS. Let’s just look at the whole season SOS.
 
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