When do you think you will buy a 100% pure electric vehicle?

When will you buy a 100% pure electric vehicle?

  • Already Own One

    Votes: 39 5.5%
  • In the next year

    Votes: 7 1.0%
  • Between 1-5 years

    Votes: 128 18.1%
  • 6-10 years

    Votes: 169 23.9%
  • 10+ years or never

    Votes: 363 51.4%

  • Total voters
    706
I had to read almost to the end of the article to learn that there are ‘pre conditioning’ mechanisms built it, and it sounds like the user may need to even hit a button to start the process (owners like @dmclone will know the process better than me)

Before getting to that point I was going to make a dumb joke about how Teslas will need an engine block heater for cold weather just like diesels.
Well they kind of work that way.
 
I had to read almost to the end of the article to learn that there are ‘pre conditioning’ mechanisms built it, and it sounds like the user may need to even hit a button to start the process (owners like @dmclone will know the process better than me)

Before getting to that point I was going to make a dumb joke about how Teslas will need an engine block heater for cold weather just like diesels.

A lot of different options here. Let me give you an example of my current state/options

My wife's car is currently sitting in the garage and plugged in. I can see that the interior is 17 degrees. If my wife wants to drive to hyvee, she has a few options.

1. Unplug, jump in the car, and head to hyvee. You will use more battery by this method but it will still heat up faster than an ICE vehicle
2. From an app, set the temp to 72 and turn on the seat heater and wheel on. This will not use the battery, it will use our energy.
 
A lot of different options here. Let me give you an example of my current state/options

My wife's car is currently sitting in the garage and plugged in. I can see that the interior is 17 degrees. If my wife wants to drive to hyvee, she has a few options.

1. Unplug, jump in the car, and head to hyvee. You will use more battery by this method but it will still heat up faster than an ICE vehicle
2. From an app, set the temp to 72 and turn on the seat heater and wheel on. This will not use the battery, it will use our energy.
Good post..this reminded me that if I had a do over, I would get the Leaf model with the heated seats. Heating the seats uses less energy than heating the car interior.
 
Deisel is $6.50 in SoCal right now and electric equivalent is about $1.25.
I've been paying sub $2.50 for my gas for the last while it is all situational. Both my vehicles were under 20,000. I can afford to buy gas for a while.
A serious question I do have is what quality tires do EVs run with the batteries adding extra weight do they need like 8 ply tires?
 
2nd scenario. I'm doing a road trip to Kansas City from DSM. It's telling me that I have to stop and charge in Bethany for 12 minutes. About 10 miles outside of Bethany, it starts conditioning the battery to optimize charging in Bethany. I haven't did this in the cold so I assume it starts preconditioning earlier. This is all automatic
 
Good post..this reminded me that if I had a do over, I would get the Leaf model with the heated seats. Heating the seats uses less energy than heating the car interior.
Yeah, heated seats are a pretty important/useful option for an EV in a colder climate. Slightly less important, but also very useful are a heated steering wheel and a heat pump.
 
I've been paying sub $2.50 for my gas for the last while it is all situational. Both my vehicles were under 20,000. I can afford to buy gas for a while.
A serious question I do have is what quality tires do EVs run with the batteries adding extra weight do they need like 8 ply tires?
Standard tires, just like any other vehicle. Our Model X came with Continental Cross Contact LX Sports.

https://www.tirerack.com/tires/continental-crosscontact-lx-sport

I run Michelin X-Ice Xi3's on my Model 3 Performance during the winter, and run the stock Michelin Pilot Sport Pro 4S's in the summer.
 
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I've been paying sub $2.50 for my gas for the last while it is all situational. Both my vehicles were under 20,000. I can afford to buy gas for a while.
A serious question I do have is what quality tires do EVs run with the batteries adding extra weight do they need like 8 ply tires?
EVs don't weight that much more than a gas equivalent. Same tires can be used.


When people talk about EV tires it is ussually referring to the efficiency of the tire (rolling resistance).
 
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I've been paying sub $2.50 for my gas for the last while it is all situational. Both my vehicles were under 20,000. I can afford to buy gas for a while.
A serious question I do have is what quality tires do EVs run with the batteries adding extra weight do they need like 8 ply tires?
They need tires for their weight, but those already exist. It really isn't anything special.
 
Depends on the EV, but it warms up the battery in a few different manners.

I set in my app that I wanted to leave my cabin at 3pm on Sunday. When we got in, the cabin was 70 and my battery was 58 degrees. It was -10 outside.
The articles say the batteries are at 0. How do they precondition if the battery is at 0? Is there a separate battery for that? I assumed the one pack did everything.
 
The articles say the batteries are at 0. How do they precondition if the battery is at 0? Is there a separate battery for that? I assumed the one pack did everything.
If the battery is cold enough it's not capable of discharging any current. Once you're below zero F battery cell temp you get to where that happens.
 
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If the battery is cold enough it's not capable of discharging any current. Once you're below zero F battery cell temp you get to where that happens.

That doesn't sound right at all. The biggest issue with Lion batteries is charging when they're super cold. They can safely discharge current (assuming they have charge) at temperatures well below 0° F. I have a DIY temperature sensor on my back fence that has been happily operating in < -10° without any issues. I can post the data sheet if you want.

Note: I'm not up to date on Tesla's latest cell chemistry, just 18650's that you can buy off the shelf (nothing special). So while my info is possibly wrong, I doubt it.
 
If the battery is cold enough it's not capable of discharging any current. Once you're below zero F battery cell temp you get to where that happens.
A little more explanation please. Does that mean the batteries can't power the vehicle below 0? Or the battery then reads 0 but isn't actually dead?
 

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