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When do you think you will buy a 100% pure electric vehicle?

When will you buy a 100% pure electric vehicle?

  • Already Own One

    Votes: 39 5.5%

  • In the next year

    Votes: 7 1.0%

  • Between 1-5 years

    Votes: 128 18.1%

  • 6-10 years

    Votes: 169 23.9%

  • 10+ years or never

    Votes: 363 51.4%
  • Total voters
    706
Caught an Uber ride back to the Audi dealership here in Mpls burb and the Uber was a Tesla Y. First ride in a Tesla. The big ass glass panorama roof is interesting. Car didn't ride that well and was nosier than I expected it to be. I am used to Das Audi doors so flipping the door on this shut was less than "solid" sounding.

Limited impression was I think I'll probably be waiting for something from Audi or Volvo or something of the like. I am sort of a big car interior guy and late life me has been maybe spoiled some with last few cars being pretty loaded up. Sort of locked into leather seats and all that jazz.
 
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BoxsterCy said:
Caught an Uber ride back to the Audi dealership here in Mpls burb and the Uber was a Tesla Y. First ride in a Tesla. The big ass glass panorama roof is interesting. Car didn't ride that well and was nosier than I expected it to be. I am used to Das Audi doors so flipping the door on this shut was less than "solid" sounding.

Limited impression was I think I'll probably be waiting for something from Audi or Volvo or something of the like. I am sort of a big car interior guy and late life me has been maybe spoiled some with last few cars being pretty loaded up. Sort of locked into leather seats and all that jazz.
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I agree with the door sound. I noticed on ours that the front doors sound more solid than the rears. I will say that the front seats are some of the most comfortable I've sat in. Also, the white interior is almost too bright.
 
BoxsterCy said:
Caught an Uber ride back to the Audi dealership here in Mpls burb and the Uber was a Tesla Y. First ride in a Tesla. The big ass glass panorama roof is interesting. Car didn't ride that well and was nosier than I expected it to be. I am used to Das Audi doors so flipping the door on this shut was less than "solid" sounding.

Limited impression was I think I'll probably be waiting for something from Audi or Volvo or something of the like. I am sort of a big car interior guy and late life me has been maybe spoiled some with last few cars being pretty loaded up. Sort of locked into leather seats and all that jazz.
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My Kia Rio would not be in your wheelhouse. LOL
 
BoxsterCy said:
Caught an Uber ride back to the Audi dealership here in Mpls burb and the Uber was a Tesla Y. First ride in a Tesla. The big ass glass panorama roof is interesting. Car didn't ride that well and was nosier than I expected it to be. I am used to Das Audi doors so flipping the door on this shut was less than "solid" sounding.

Limited impression was I think I'll probably be waiting for something from Audi or Volvo or something of the like. I am sort of a big car interior guy and late life me has been maybe spoiled some with last few cars being pretty loaded up. Sort of locked into leather seats and all that jazz.
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This is a reason I’m holding out. Tesla may be ahead on the tech and battery development, but the traditional auto makers have a long history in suspensions and frame design. I feel like it’ll be easier to catch up on battery tech than it will to catch up in the rest of the car.
 
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BoxsterCy said:
Caught an Uber ride back to the Audi dealership here in Mpls burb and the Uber was a Tesla Y. First ride in a Tesla. The big ass glass panorama roof is interesting. Car didn't ride that well and was nosier than I expected it to be. I am used to Das Audi doors so flipping the door on this shut was less than "solid" sounding.

Limited impression was I think I'll probably be waiting for something from Audi or Volvo or something of the like. I am sort of a big car interior guy and late life me has been maybe spoiled some with last few cars being pretty loaded up. Sort of locked into leather seats and all that jazz.
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I’ve had both a Tesla and eTron

Tesla is a better EV, eTron still a better car.

The Tesla price point suggests luxury, but it’s simply a premium car.

The frustrating thing about Tesla is they do innovation well, but lack in some basic things. And they likely always will. Things like panel fit, road noise, anything driver HMI isn’t terribly important long term to Musk/Tesla …if one sees Tesla as the conduit to fleets of smart cars or robo taxis, investing in driving experience and priorities inherent to personal car ownership is not a primary objective

Imo the Model 3 is fairly priced in the overall car sense, but the legacy manufacturers PHEV are starting to be very good value imo
 
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BoxsterCy said:
Caught an Uber ride back to the Audi dealership here in Mpls burb and the Uber was a Tesla Y. First ride in a Tesla. The big ass glass panorama roof is interesting. Car didn't ride that well and was nosier than I expected it to be. I am used to Das Audi doors so flipping the door on this shut was less than "solid" sounding.

Limited impression was I think I'll probably be waiting for something from Audi or Volvo or something of the like. I am sort of a big car interior guy and late life me has been maybe spoiled some with last few cars being pretty loaded up. Sort of locked into leather seats and all that jazz.
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I could be wrong but I thought Volvo already went all EV. If not already it’s soon. In LA they’ve probably become second most common ev brand I see.
 
Some interesting new EV options coming up next year. Not sure about the initial availability but some seem to be moving the bar some on pricing, range and innovation, especially the new Ram pickups in EV and hybrid.

The Ram 1500 Rev and Ramcharger will go on sale late next year. The Rev is the Ram brand’s first fully electric truck and will be available with a driving range up to 500 miles before needing to recharge.​
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The Ram 1500 Ramcharger is a plug-in hybrid but it’s different in some important ways from most plug-in hybrid vehicles. It has a 6-cylinder gas engine in addition to powerful batteries and electric motors but it can go as far as 145 miles on battery power before needing the gas engine. That’s a greater EV-only range than most plug-in hybrids can manage. Also, it can use DC fast chargers to quickly refill its batteries which most plug-in hybrids can’t. Together, these factors mean Ramcharger could be used like a fully electric vehicle with the gas engine needed rarely. - CNN​

 
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BoxsterCy said:
Some interesting new EV options coming up next year. Not sure about the initial availability but some seem to be moving the bar some on pricing, range and innovation, especially the new Ram pickups in EV and hybrid.

The Ram 1500 Rev and Ramcharger will go on sale late next year. The Rev is the Ram brand’s first fully electric truck and will be available with a driving range up to 500 miles before needing to recharge.​
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The Ram 1500 Ramcharger is a plug-in hybrid but it’s different in some important ways from most plug-in hybrid vehicles. It has a 6-cylinder gas engine in addition to powerful batteries and electric motors but it can go as far as 145 miles on battery power before needing the gas engine. That’s a greater EV-only range than most plug-in hybrids can manage. Also, it can use DC fast chargers to quickly refill its batteries which most plug-in hybrids can’t. Together, these factors mean Ramcharger could be used like a fully electric vehicle with the gas engine needed rarely. - CNN​

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Had no idea VW brought back those buses.
 
BoxsterCy said:
Some interesting new EV options coming up next year. Not sure about the initial availability but some seem to be moving the bar some on pricing, range and innovation, especially the new Ram pickups in EV and hybrid.

The Ram 1500 Rev and Ramcharger will go on sale late next year. The Rev is the Ram brand’s first fully electric truck and will be available with a driving range up to 500 miles before needing to recharge.​
​
The Ram 1500 Ramcharger is a plug-in hybrid but it’s different in some important ways from most plug-in hybrid vehicles. It has a 6-cylinder gas engine in addition to powerful batteries and electric motors but it can go as far as 145 miles on battery power before needing the gas engine. That’s a greater EV-only range than most plug-in hybrids can manage. Also, it can use DC fast chargers to quickly refill its batteries which most plug-in hybrids can’t. Together, these factors mean Ramcharger could be used like a fully electric vehicle with the gas engine needed rarely. - CNN​

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That Ram Charger concept is super interesting to me. I could see that catching on with light duty trucks.
 
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Momentum slowing for EV cars, according to the Wall Street Journal. EV cars take 3 weeks longer to sell than gas powered vehicles.
www.wsj.com

How Electric Vehicles Are Losing Steam With U.S. Buyers, in Charts

EV sales began to stall in the latter half of this year, a move that car executives attributed to electric models’ relatively high prices.
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The WSJ knows their subscribers and audience:

Bold Title: How Electric Vehicles Are Losing Momentum with U.S. Buyers, in Charts
Sub-title: EV sales grew nearly 50% this year but have plateaued in recent months
 
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BoxsterCy said:
The WSJ knows their subscribers and audience:

Bold Title: How Electric Vehicles Are Losing Momentum with U.S. Buyers, in Charts
Sub-title: EV sales grew nearly 50% this year but have plateaued in recent months
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It's amazing how something like a multi-trillion-dollar industry can convince people to totally disdain progress to what will ultimately be better technology.

If there had been that kind of money in hay sales for horses around the year 1900, I imagine we would have had a whole bunch of people telling potential car buyers how inferior they are. How there wasn't enough infrastructure for gas. How horses can just stop and eat grass on the side of the road. How gas cars could burn your barn down. How much it would cost to replace the engine, whereas horses don't need that and so on.
 
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CyCoug said:
It's amazing how something like a multi-trillion-dollar industry can convince people to totally disdain progress to what will ultimately be better technology.

If there had been that kind of money in hay sales for horses around the year 1900, I imagine we would have had a whole bunch of people telling potential car buyers how inferior they are. How there wasn't enough infrastructure for gas. How horses can just stop and eat grass on the side of the road. How gas cars could burn your barn down. How much it would cost to replace the engine, whereas horses don't need that and so on.
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I think at the time, a car was similar in price or cheaper than a horse and buggy. Through in the work to cool it off at night and the gear needed and it may have been a time savings also.
 
BoxsterCy said:
The WSJ knows their subscribers and audience:

Bold Title: How Electric Vehicles Are Losing Momentum with U.S. Buyers, in Charts
Sub-title: EV sales grew nearly 50% this year but have plateaued in recent months
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I've been disappointed to see what's happened to the WSJ under Fox. I read it daily for probably 15 years, mostly pre-Fox. It took time, maybe 5 years or so, but definitely noticed how it changed.

Here's hoping Rupert doesn't get his hands on the Economist.
 
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