New season with first year head coach and all new asst. coaches is tough. These guys won't even know who each player is in Spring practice. The learning curve will have to be fast to beat NDSU, and to expect us to be ready on offense and defense in the second game against Iowa is expecting a lot. The first year of Chizik was a circus. I hope this is better, but don't expect miracles. I hope for a four win season. No way we beat Iowa unless the new coaches can pull our guys together fast.
2009 Prediction Thread Part 1: Non-Conf.
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You really think this most recent recruiting class is going to make a difference in this game? There aren't any positions that are just open for only a TR FS to step into for either team. Its funny you bring up Brodell as a missing threat for Iowa. I believe the only thing he did worthwhile this past year was that punt return against us.
As an Iowa fan, I hate playing you guys in Ames. However, I do think it's funny that most Clone fans think that every starter the Hawks lost from this years team is almost irreplacable. I know King and Greene won't be easy, but Brodell and Fletcher will be replcaded very easily. As for the Oline, we are very deep this next year with several guys with lots of experience ready to step into the two opens spots, and our two starting tackles being as dominant as any the Clones will face this year. Also, for someone to use this last years recruiting class as a reason we won't win in Ames this year. Here are a couple of points.
1) only 2 or 3 of these guys will see the field, and probably only 1 will see significant minutes
2) all of those guys that Clone fans look at as irreplaceable for the Hawks were all 2 and 3 star guys
3)as bad as our class looks on paper according to the experts. it still ranked higher than this years Clone class that a fans on this site considered a very strong class
1) only 2 or 3 of these guys will see the field, and probably only 1 will see significant minutes
2) all of those guys that Clone fans look at as irreplaceable for the Hawks were all 2 and 3 star guys
3)as bad as our class looks on paper according to the experts. it still ranked higher than this years Clone class that a fans on this site considered a very strong class
you cannot reason with Cyclone Fanatics! So don't even try! (gulp!) the Hawks are going down baby!
Yaaaaaaaaaaa!
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I agree with others 3-1 non-conference.. toss-up on Kent State and UI. The big kicker on the Iowa game is Jewell Hampton. Last year success was based on the run opening the play action pass. Shocker I know, same will hold true from here to infinity under David Hasselhoff.
David Hasselhoff?
Iowa fans are to Germans as Kirk Ferentz is to David Hasselhoff
they both have this weird love and obsession for something thats really not that great.
David Hasselhoff?
Iowa fans are to Germans as Kirk Ferentz is to David Hasselhoff
they both have this weird love and obsession for something thats really not that great.
Just like the predictions last year about how Iowa had no running game going into the season, they lost their 2 best DE in Mattison and Iwebema so their D wasn't going to be as good, etc....
They found a running game and their D was one of the best in school history in 2008.
I'm not saying the same thing will happen agian, but even with King and Kroul gone their D and DL will still be outstanding next year. And while Hampton won't replace Greene, as a team Iowa will still be able to have an effective running game because of what they return on the OL. I seriously could have ran through some of the holes they opened up last year. If Greene had the 07 OL in front of him he probably doesn't even get 1,000 yards compared to the 1,800 that he got last year. As far as passing, I guess you didn't watch Stanzi as the year went on, he will be just fine. He will have a full spring/summer/fall this year knowing he is the #1 and not sharing reps with the first unit like last year. Brodell isn't a big loss and Iowa will be able to replace him.
Iowa's recruting ranking for this past year has no bearing on this game as maybe 3 to 6 guys from that class will see the field and won't be major contributors anyway.
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The hawkeyes are right, losing Brodell won't make a difference. He wasn't a game changer against us last year or anything.
The hawkeyes are right, losing Brodell won't make a difference. He wasn't a game changer against us last year or anything.
Name another game last year where he was the difference?
I guess he was against Northwestern by fumbling a punt and setting NW up to score a TD at the end of the first half in a game Iowa lost by 5, so maybe they will miss him.
3-1 is my prediction, I have a feeling we have a far greater chance at beating the squawks then Kent State on the road, but I wouldn't be surprised if we came out at 4-0. Heck I probably am leaning more to us being at 4-0 then 3-1. Back to sipping kool-aid.
I'm going with 4-0. God I hope the first game is a pushover, and in the Iowa-Iowa State game recently, I have to give the home team the edge. The Jack will be rockin' and I think we'll see some inspired, emotional football out of the 'Clones. Iowa is set up to stop power attacks. If we run a true spread and make them run all over the field, we have a quarterback who has proven he can pick apart defenses and run. The question in this game I fear is can our defense slow down their running game. If we hold them under 150 rushing, I think we win. I don't think there is any way in hell they're going to throw for 200-300 unless we take away their running game, and Stanzi did not look good at all in Iowa City last year against this defense. Was it early in his career? Yes. Was it also early in Austen Arnaud's career? Yes. Our offense wasn't the problem at the end of last year, it was defense. I fear Kent State will either be a) a letdown game and we lose a close one or b) riding the train of confidence and we annihilate them. Coming back home, I think we beat Army handily.
That was my point. You have no idea what he did the rest of the year so because he returned a punt for a TD in one game you think he will be hard to replace.
With the lack of tackling on that punt return Sandeman who will probably be doing it next year could have taken it to the house too.
4-0 and 2-2 are equally likely, IMO. I think 3-1 is what is going to happen. I think we beat Iowa for the same reasons many here have said. Their defense is not geared to stop a team like ours, and their offense (which we were pretty effective against last year) will not burn us. I think we need to do everything possible to keep the field dry (hopefully it doesn't rain over a foot prior to the game like last year). Normal conditions = Clone win @ the Jack. That said, we have a let down, and lose to Kent because it's a road game against an inferior opponent, and we're adept at losing those games.
Do you guys just assume that the new offense is going to put up 40 a game! Please give your reasons, especially since you haven't scored a touchdown in 2 years.
Also, how do you come to the conclusion that our defense can't handle that offense. Please give reasons why we aren't built to handle this. The only actual reason I've seen from Clone fans is that ISU gets all the superior Florida and Texas athletes while little old Iowa has to rely in the slower midwest athletes.
We don't need any stinkin' touchdowns!
Beat you by field goals two years ago...
gonna do it with safeties this year to give you a chance!
I've seen more than one person in this thread pick a win over Iowa, but a loss @ Kent St.. This makes no sense, even if ISU hasn't won a roadie in 3 years.
The pieces are all in place to have a good offense this season, and we have a proven OC to put it all together. We will score touchdowns against Iowa this year.
People keep saying that ISU's spread offense will be too much for Iowa....you do realize ISU has scored 20 pts in the past two games against Iowa with 6 fg's and a safety that Iowa took intentionally. You can quote stats from last year's game all you want, but Iowa St did what everyone does against Iowa and that is dink and dunk down the field until they get to about the 20-25 yard line and then Iowa shut them down. That is what Iowa did to everyone last year and that is what Norm Parker has made a living doing for 30 years. They give up the 5-7 yard slant or quick out, but eventually they either take advantage of a mistake by the offense or they tighten up when they get down near the red zone. That is why Iowa finished 2nd I believe in pts given up per game.
I think ISU's offense will be a little bit better this year due to experience on the o-line, qb and at wr. ISU's defense will be more or less the same in my opinion as I just don't think they have the talent and depth in their front 7. (The Big 12 North won't be as strong so I think ISU has a chance to win at least a few in conference)
Iowa's o-line will be very good again and the d-line will still be very strong. Klug, Geary and Ballard are 3 very serviceable guys to rotate in the middle and I wouldn't be surprised if 2 of those guys end up being all conference within the next 2 years. Iowa's lb's are probably the strongest they have been since Greenway and Hodge and they may even be better as far as protecting against the pass (Hodge's weakness, Angerer's strength). Iowa's secondary will be about the same with 3 returning starters plus a couple of talented options at the other cb (bernstine or prater) with both having played some last year.
Question Stanzi all you want but he had a passer rating of 134.8 (Arnaud 127.4), he threw 14 td's and 9 int's (Arnaud had 15/10), stanzi had 1950 yds (Arnaud 2800) and Stanzi averaged 7.7 yards per completion (Arnaud 7.0). He played quite a few less downs than Arnaud did so I would say their play was pretty equal all things considered. Anyone who watched the PSU game would have seen the potential Stanzi has to be very good.
Finally, Hampton is a good rb and Jeff Brinson may be a very good rb this year as well. Brinson was actually in line to be 2nd string last year until he hurt his hamstring in the Spring....Hampton took 2nd string at that point and Brinson red-shirted. They have two quality backs with Wegher being a nice 3rd back as a freshman.
Iowa wins in a close game....my opinion
We don't need any stinkin' touchdowns!
Beat you by field goals two years ago...
gonna do it with safeties this year to give you a chance!
We would say you beat "us" because Norm put a linebacker on a receiver, and Meyer saw it. It was one of the 2 biggest plays of the game.