Smoking Meat Questions and Discussion

Perhaps I'm a slow adopter but here is what I am thinking and looking for input. In my mind pellet grills don't give the same smokiness of a dedicated smoker plus a 14-18 hour smoke would be a lot of pellets. I need my Weber Q220 little gas grill for quick things and tailgating but a traditional weber kettle grill would be best for steaks and other things. So I am looking for a Masterbuilt Thermotemp gas smoker which has a thermostat control for set and forget except for adding wood chips every couple of hours. Am I overthinking this and just go with my gas tailgate grill and a pellet grill/smoker to cover the rest or would having 3 devices not be as crazy as it sounds?
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If 3 devices is crazy, then i am certifiable. I have a small vertical chip smoker that i use for tailgates and sides. I have a charcoal smoker in the garage(i believe everyone should try this at least once). I also have a pellet smoker, blackstone, and a weber gas grill lol
 
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Perhaps I'm a slow adopter but here is what I am thinking and looking for input. In my mind pellet grills don't give the same smokiness of a dedicated smoker plus a 14-18 hour smoke would be a lot of pellets. I need my Weber Q220 little gas grill for quick things and tailgating but a traditional weber kettle grill would be best for steaks and other things. So I am looking for a Masterbuilt Thermotemp gas smoker which has a thermostat control for set and forget except for adding wood chips every couple of hours. Am I overthinking this and just go with my gas tailgate grill and a pellet grill/smoker to cover the rest or would having 3 devices not be as crazy as it sounds?
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I love the smoky flavor of my pellet grill. The biggest thing is just watch the pellets. They are a massive ***** to prime when you run out of pellets
 
Traeger Pellet Smoker. What temp should I smoke them at? 225? or is that going to be too long in the danger zone?
I may have a different school of thought there, but I start them at 225 until they hit 135-140, and then crank my smoker to 275-300 so the skin gets somewhat crispy. I dont want them that hot for more than probably 30 minutes, so definitely get a probe. They will be fine up until about 175, and you wont have the bloody spots on the bone if they get this hot. I also marinate them in italian dressing starting the night before, then add a meat church rub. HIGHLY recommend the How To BBQ Right app. I have used many of the recipes, and also added my own variations
 
If 3 devices is crazy, then i am certifiable. I have a small vertical chip smoker that i use for tailgates and sides. I have a charcoal smoker in the garage(i believe everyone should try this at least once). I also have a pellet smoker, blackstone, and a weber gas grill lol
1691446740758.png1691446816414.png Use one of these contraptions in a masterbilt electric smoker. Keep the chip trap open half way and the top vent open. I have also added pellets to the tray but that takes too mutch watching. Prime rib is the best. Set your temp at 160 degrees. I also have a Weber Genesis Gas (second one in 31 years). and a Weber Charcoal. I am considering the Masterbilt gravity series anyone have a take on the gravity series?
 
Perhaps I'm a slow adopter but here is what I am thinking and looking for input. In my mind pellet grills don't give the same smokiness of a dedicated smoker plus a 14-18 hour smoke would be a lot of pellets. I need my Weber Q220 little gas grill for quick things and tailgating but a traditional weber kettle grill would be best for steaks and other things. So I am looking for a Masterbuilt Thermotemp gas smoker which has a thermostat control for set and forget except for adding wood chips every couple of hours. Am I overthinking this and just go with my gas tailgate grill and a pellet grill/smoker to cover the rest or would having 3 devices not be as crazy as it sounds?
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Wait about a month and find a MB gravity charcoal on clearance at one of the big box stores. If you are going to go the vertical route there's no real advantage of gas vs electric, you are just pumping in heat and supplementing flavor by smoldering a wood source. You will be much happier in the long run with a gravity charcoal.
 
This was my 1st attempt at a long smoke so I went with a pork butt. It was only around $14 for 6.5lbs so I wasn’t too worried if I screwed it up. Actually turned out pretty good. Next time I’ll probably only use the two rows of briquettes on bottom with wood chunks on top because it ran hotter than I needed it, had to keep the vents about three quarter shut throughout to maintain the 250-275 range.
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That's a damn fine job there, you wouldn't have a clue it's your first long smoke. Top notch looking bark formation. Great choice of charcoal as well.
 
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That's a damn fine job there, you wouldn't have a clue it's your first long smoke. Top notch looking bark formation. Great choice of charcoal as well.
Thanks, I’ve been following a Weber fans group and picking up a lot of tips. B&B seems to be the most popular with those guys and I have to say it worked great for this smoke. I only used about 60% of what I had in the kettle so probably could have gotten another 6 hours if I needed it.
 
Thanks, I’ve been following a Weber fans group and picking up a lot of tips. B&B seems to be the most popular with those guys and I have to say it worked great for this smoke. I only used about 60% of what I had in the kettle so probably could have gotten another 6 hours if I needed it.
Great looking pork butt. Can you post a link to the Weber fans group?
 
Wait about a month and find a MB gravity charcoal on clearance at one of the big box stores. If you are going to go the vertical route there's no real advantage of gas vs electric, you are just pumping in heat and supplementing flavor by smoldering a wood source. You will be much happier in the long run with a gravity charcoal.
I really like the concept of the MB gravity charcoal but the reviews are terrible. Lots of issues with the firewall disintegrating, bad electronics, poor customer service, etc. Fine if you get a big discount and it’s your 3rd or 4th grill/smoker but would hesitate if you plan to use it heavily. I’ll wait to see if MB figures out the issues or another company comes along and does it better.
 
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View attachment 115333View attachment 115334 Use one of these contraptions in a masterbilt electric smoker. Keep the chip trap open half way and the top vent open. I have also added pellets to the tray but that takes too mutch watching. Prime rib is the best. Set your temp at 160 degrees. I also have a Weber Genesis Gas (second one in 31 years). and a Weber Charcoal. I am considering the Masterbilt gravity series anyone have a take on the gravity series?
This makes me think I need to cold smoke some cheese.
 
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In my experience, that has not been a thing. Had to get several parts replaced over the years, never once had an issue with being asked about the pellets
I agree. I’ve had a lot of issues the last 6 months with my Traeger but it has nothing to do with the chips (except for using some I should of just thrown away because they partially disintegrated but that was me being stubborn, not the smoker). I called traeger multiple times and they never asked about what I was burning.
 
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I really like the concept of the MB gravity charcoal but the reviews are terrible. Lots of issues with the firewall disintegrating, bad electronics, poor customer service, etc. Fine if you get a big discount and it’s your 3rd or 4th grill/smoker but would hesitate if you plan to use it heavily. I’ll wait to see if MB figures out the issues or another company comes along and does it better.
I've had a MB 560 for a little over 3 years. The reviews are correct, it's built like a $400 smoker.

Negatives
  • It's made of really thin metal. The lid to the chute that holds the briquettes was getting nasty from the first time I used it. I put a piece of tinfoil in place and replace that piece every year.
  • One of the covers inside tended to flair up when I would get things really hot(700+). I covered it in tinfoil and it fixed the issue.
  • I didn't trust the temperatures and wanted more probes so I bought an Inkbird and found that the temperature was about 20 degrees cooler. So I adjust accordingly.
  • I found the app to suck when I first got it but it seems to have gotten better. All I need to do is adjust the temperature and it will do that. My Inkbird provides the alerts.
Positives
  • It was cheap so I don't have to baby it. I do very little clean up after each smoke.
  • It turns out great product and it's hard to beat the smoke from charcoal. I will also throw in a little wood once in awhile but I'm not sure this helps.
  • Once you get it going (10 minutes) it will run like a champ as long as you want it to. Fill it up and sleep all night while you cook.
  • It's great for grilling, searing, etc. since it will get super hot.
I've been thinking hard about getting either a Yoder YS640S or Lone Star Grillz pellet smoker but it seems kind of stupid to spend $3,500+ on something that won't turn out better product. Yes, they are both built like a tank and will last a lifetime but I don't think I use it enough to justify the price.
 
Wait about a month and find a MB gravity charcoal on clearance at one of the big box stores. If you are going to go the vertical route there's no real advantage of gas vs electric, you are just pumping in heat and supplementing flavor by smoldering a wood source. You will be much happier in the long run with a gravity charcoal.
I have purchased all of my smokers an d phenomenal discounts because they were "damaged". IMO, 95% of the time it is just the box that is damaged
 
Weber gasser, GMG Daniel Boone, and combo Blackstone grill/flattop for tailgating. Throw in the Anova sous vide and I have all I need.

If anyone makes their own salsa, you have to put in on the smoker for an hour or so before you can it. You will not be disappointed!
 
Perhaps I'm a slow adopter but here is what I am thinking and looking for input. In my mind pellet grills don't give the same smokiness of a dedicated smoker plus a 14-18 hour smoke would be a lot of pellets. I need my Weber Q220 little gas grill for quick things and tailgating but a traditional weber kettle grill would be best for steaks and other things. So I am looking for a Masterbuilt Thermotemp gas smoker which has a thermostat control for set and forget except for adding wood chips every couple of hours. Am I overthinking this and just go with my gas tailgate grill and a pellet grill/smoker to cover the rest or would having 3 devices not be as crazy as it sounds?
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I don't think having 3 devices for grilling/smoking is crazy, that to me sounds like a guy who's dedicated to providing a whole lot of kick a** food to his family and friends.

I smoke ribs/pork shoulder/chicken/brisket pretty frequently and just use my big charcoal grill, rigging it up as a smoker with indirect heat. It's a lot of work, regulating the temp isn't easy, but I've always loved the flavor of smoking with actual wood chunks and believed there was a difference between that and pellets. But my neighbors have GMG pellet smokers and I've come to believe that pellet smokers produce results just as good if not better. They put out some pretty amazing food.
 
Wait about a month and find a MB gravity charcoal on clearance at one of the big box stores. If you are going to go the vertical route there's no real advantage of gas vs electric, you are just pumping in heat and supplementing flavor by smoldering a wood source. You will be much happier in the long run with a gravity charcoal.
Great if you get them at a super discount, but those things only last a few years.
 
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Perhaps I'm a slow adopter but here is what I am thinking and looking for input. In my mind pellet grills don't give the same smokiness of a dedicated smoker plus a 14-18 hour smoke would be a lot of pellets. I need my Weber Q220 little gas grill for quick things and tailgating but a traditional weber kettle grill would be best for steaks and other things. So I am looking for a Masterbuilt Thermotemp gas smoker which has a thermostat control for set and forget except for adding wood chips every couple of hours. Am I overthinking this and just go with my gas tailgate grill and a pellet grill/smoker to cover the rest or would having 3 devices not be as crazy as it sounds?
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So, my "first" smoker was technically a traditional offset wood/charcoal burner. Man I hated that thing. Impossible for me to control temp or flat out keep the fire going. I probably just suck, but learning curve too steep for me...plus the babysitting.

My second real smoker was just like this one, but much older and simpler, Masterbuilt vertical gas smoker. I went with gas for transportability, and we lived on an acreage so a propane tank just made more sense to me. I had to install a needle valve on the gas line to give me more control of the flame though, as "low" would often get too hot for my cook.

It was much better than the offset cooker, but I had to set my watch to 60-90 minutes max to come back and add wood chunks. Plus, sourcing wood chunks that I liked was a bit of a pain. Often I'd hit craigslist for some hardwood firewood and bandsaw down my own chunks. My hack was to put a cast iron skillet in the bottom for my wood chunks. I used that for maybe 5 years before it literally was falling apart. I went to try to clean it out one day and my garden hose started blasting through a side wall.... :mccaffery:

Now I've got a PitBoss pellet grill. I only use it for smoking, and I still have a gas grill for actual grilling. I smoke everything in a pan + rack so I never get grease inside the pellet grill. And a 20lb bag of quality pellets is $8-10 and readily available at several stores. Buy, dump, smoke. And I don't have to babysit this thing at all. I leave it alone for hours at a time, just check temp periodically and peek in the pellet box to make sure it's feeding okay.

Usually I'm smoking a pork butt for ~8-12 hours and I figure half a bag of pellets. Once I smoked 4 butts at one time and it took 18 hours, I think I used almost a whole bag by the time the last holdout butt was done.

I just bought one of these camp stoves that has been awesome for blanching/freezing sweet corn and canning salsa the last 2 weeks -- and I can buy griddles separately to use when we go camping and want to cook food.

Camp Chef Explorer 2-burner
 
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