Realignment Megathread (All The Moves)

I suspect the Pac and MWC will merge. Effectively it'd be the remaining Pac moving to the MWC, but they'd want to keep the Pac 12 name/history, so it'd be the MWC voting to dissolve and the Pac adding them all.

I don’t think the MWC will dissolve: they’re the ones with a media deal (even if it’s bad); the PAC X has nothing. What will probably happen is the PAC X will dissolve and the MWC will accept the teams and rebrand - probably as the new PAC Y.
 
I don't want to celebrate the demise of the Pac 12 because that could have easily been us 2 years ago. This realignment sucks (but it sure is nice to be on this side this time). But I DO want to celebrate with receipts how bad the Mandels, Wilners, Canzanos of the world are and who could not have been more wrong at every step of the way along this process.

These are not serious people and should never be positioned as a person of authority ever again.
Mandel is the freakin' editor-in-chief of the Athletic's college football coverage, He should have to resign. The Athletic needs a major shakeup because they clearly have no clue what's going on. Bruce Feldman is the only guy who should be listened to from that outfit.
 
Isn't Cal/Stanford the biggest story now by several light years? Unless I'm missing something.

Washington/Oregon/USC/UCLA - Big Ten killed the Pac
Colorado/AZ - moved to Big 12
Utah and Arizona State - who gives a crap because they wanted to be in the MWC or with Cal/Stan anyway
Ore St/WSU - unfortunately they always had 100% chance of merging with MWC

What Cal and Stanford do is by far the biggest question mark. Utah and ASU don't really matter, they didn't want Big 12 anyway and Big 12 is looking solid at 14. It's like a wash if they stay in new MWC or join us.
Stanford goes independent. Cal probably has to too before they're just another Cal college like Fullerton, Irvine, Davis, Santa Barbara, etc etc.
 
Isn't Cal/Stanford the biggest story now by several light years? Unless I'm missing something.

Washington/Oregon/USC/UCLA - Big Ten killed the Pac
Colorado/AZ - moved to Big 12
Utah and Arizona State - who gives a crap because they wanted to be in the MWC or with Cal/Stan anyway
Ore St/WSU - unfortunately they always had 100% chance of merging with MWC

What Cal and Stanford do is by far the biggest question mark. Utah and ASU don't really matter, they didn't want Big 12 anyway and Big 12 is looking solid at 14. It's like a wash if they stay in new MWC or join us.
Cal and Stanford would have to swallow some serious crow to beg for a spot in the “truck stop conference.” It‘d be fine to have them, good brands, quality institutions - but they‘ve put themselves so high above the B12 it seems unlikely they’d stoop to joining us.

It would be a much better conference fit for the B12 with Oregon State and Washington State as 15 and 16; I just doubt Fox will pony up any additional dollars for them, though … but how much would they add for Utah and Arizona State anyway?
 
I don’t get the “feel sorry for WSU and OSU”. Work with two WSU grads and they cheered on everything that would make the PAC stronger over the years as “just business”. Those schools voted/approved to The Alliance without Big 12, Trying to poach the 4 TX/OK schools, grab Colorado and Utah, etc.

I don’t like any of this realignment stuff at all but I also don’t feel any empathy for teams that actively tried to kill off other conferences for 10 years.

"The Alliance" being with their psychotic bloody murderer instead of their life saving ambulance really makes it easy to not have a lot of sympathy.

I mean they went out of the way to make sure the life saving ambulance/lifeboat was not welcomed.
 
Yet somehow, Iowa will end up playing the BRUTAL schedule of Nebby, Minny, Rutgers, Indiana, Northwestern, Maryland, Illinois, Wisconsin and UCLA (UCLA since they will have to play one of the western teams).
The new scheduling system in the B1G has every program playing every other program at least twice every four years. So if Iowa plays only Nebby, Minny, Rutgers, Indiana, NW, Maryland, Illinois, Wisconsin, and UCLA one year, they'll be playing all of USC, tOSU, Michigan, PSU the next year.
 
Isn't Cal/Stanford the biggest story now by several light years? Unless I'm missing something.

Washington/Oregon/USC/UCLA - Big Ten killed the Pac
Colorado/AZ - moved to Big 12
Utah and Arizona State - who gives a crap because they wanted to be in the MWC or with Cal/Stan anyway
Ore St/WSU - unfortunately they always had 100% chance of merging with MWC

What Cal and Stanford do is by far the biggest question mark. Utah and ASU don't really matter, they didn't want Big 12 anyway and Big 12 is looking solid at 14. It's like a wash if they stay in new MWC or join us.

My Cal and Stanford prediction. They both want the Big 10, but won't get it. If they both think they are too good for the Big 12, they will think they are too good for the new Pac 12/MWC. I predict Stanford will go independent. They can afford it. I predict Cal will go FCS and join the Big Sky.
 
Let’s bring Oregon State and Washington State at 15 and 16, and force the others to go independent or to the MWC. I don’t care about media value. There are some schools left who deserve to live on in top-level college athletics and some who are proving that maybe they don’t. Plus, OSU and WSU are much better organizational fits in the B12 than any of the other schools. Take Arizona, offer OSU/WSU the next spots but Fox doesn’t have to match the pro-rata (would be reduced share, $20M). It’s clear the others don’t want to be a part of the Big 12.
 
Cal and Stanford would have to swallow some serious crow to beg for a spot in the “truck stop conference.” It‘d be fine to have them, good brands, quality institutions - but they‘ve put themselves so high above the B12 it seems unlikely they’d stoop to joining us.

It would be a much better conference fit for the B12 with Oregon State and Washington State as 15 and 16; I just doubt Fox will pony up any additional dollars for them, though … but how much would they add for Utah and Arizona State anyway?

I don't see any of those 4 as B12 options as shrewd as BY is. Stanford and Cal play to empty football stadiums and have no real fanbase like our current 14 have in at least one of the two major sports and like UConn would bring for FB or Utah would bring for FB.

I think Stanford/Cal have a slim chance that some day the Big Ten wants to get REALLY huge and takes them along with extra ACC adds...or they go FB independent, or they drop football.

They aren't going to join the MWC unless they beg Big 12 and Big 12 gives a hard no. It's not like the MWC is full of Harvards. The WCC could offer similar crazy expensive private mostly CA colleges without football.
 
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Isn't Cal/Stanford the biggest story now by several light years? Unless I'm missing something.

Washington/Oregon/USC/UCLA - Big Ten killed the Pac
Colorado/AZ - moved to Big 12
Utah and Arizona State - who gives a crap because they wanted to be in the MWC or with Cal/Stan anyway
Ore St/WSU - unfortunately they always had 100% chance of merging with MWC

What Cal and Stanford do is by far the biggest question mark. Utah and ASU don't really matter, they didn't want Big 12 anyway and Big 12 is looking solid at 14. It's like a wash if they stay in new MWC or join us.

I still think on the whole ASU thing it’s a very small group speaking for everyone else when everyone else changed their mind. Sure, they originally wanted to stay committed to the PAC 12, and I don’t blame them for that. But when reality set in and no real media deal was ever going to be signed, they realized the Big 12 was the best option. Except Crow keeps being a **** about it. And, as was pointed out earlier in the thread, nobody at ASU has even liked Crow for the last several decades.
 

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