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Realignment Megathread (All The Moves)

Arizona is coming. We will take them. And Oregon has to wonder whether they want to be tethered to the PAC 12. Oregon could thrive in the Big 12. And they are not getting a B1G invite. Arizona State should be worrying. Utah as well. Washington not getting a B1G invite either. This could fall out with Washington, Oregon, and Arizona all going to the Big 12. Absolute homerun.
 
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CascadeClone said:
Lets all please realize that UConn is the emergency backup plan for team #14, IF AND ONLY IF the PAC sticks together and no further defections.

So no need to crap on UConn, and argue others are better- of course they are. But in the worst case scenario, UConn gets an invite. And long term they have value for bball and an east coast presence. Its fine.
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Eh, personally I’d take a “worst case scenario” of staying at 13 for 2024-25 instead of adding UConn “just because.”

Also, do we know the media contract automatically escalates if it’s UConn? I thought that was only for P5 teams, although I certainly do not know all the ins and outs of the media deal.
 
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KidSilverhair said:
Eh, personally I’d take a “worst case scenario” of staying at 13 for 2024-25 instead of adding UConn “just because.”

Also, do we know the media contract automatically escalates if it’s UConn? I thought that was only for P5 teams, although I certainly do not know all the ins and outs of the media deal.
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UConn is not included in the escalation
 
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To be clear I prefer Az, oregon, washington, ASU, and Utah to uconn, but if none come Uconn is better than not adding a team.

I prefer Uconn to osu, wazzu, stanford, and cal. and to g tech, bc cuse, and wake forest from the ACC.
 
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Nolaeer said:
To be clear I prefer Az, oregon, washington, ASU, and Utah to uconn, but if none come Uconn is better than not adding a team.

I prefer Uconn to osu, wazzu, stanford, and cal. and to g tech, bc cuse, and wake forest from the ACC.
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Big 12 not taking any of them either.
 
Allikat said:
This changes my opinion on Arizona being the next school to leave.

The Presidents, not the ADs, control conference affiliation. I can see where Robbins would show allegiance with Stanford unless the media deal is shown to be too low. By then, it may be too late.

if Oregon thinks they can get an unequal share they might stay too but based upon their forums their fan base seems to be warming to the Big 12 (whereas UW is still PAC or Big 10 only).

Reluctantly, my prediction is UConn as the 14th and the PAC survives barely. I hope I am wrong. As much as I fear Oregon could be a mini Texas, that should be our push for the 14th team.
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That’s one way to look at Robbins being on the PAC exec committee. I think it’s completely a non-issue, other than Arizona being much more likely than CU to require waiting until after the bad media rights deal gets released, to jump. That’s always been the case. BigXII has the leverage now, and has tightened the screws recently.

Related to him being on the exec committee, Robbins has likely seen more details of the underwhelming media rights deal than his PAC counterparts. He could know the math, without tipping anything publicly, and laying the groundwork for the exit shortly after the underwhelming release.

With Scheer’s and others reporting, I now feel more confident that Arizona will jump than I did about CU doing so several months ago. But it won’t be until after the the PAC releases #s. UCONN is not even a real candidate, just BY working his magic. We should all sit back and applaud. Patience is uncommon these days. I expect Arizona to be next add, but it may not be until OCT-DEC, which is totally fine.
 
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thakeepa14 said:
That’s one way to look at Robbins being on the PAC exec committee. I think it’s completely a non-issue, other than Arizona being much more likely than CU to require waiting until after the bad media rights deal gets released, to jump. That’s always been the case. BigXII has the leverage now, and has tightened the screws recently.

Related to him being on the exec committee, Robbins has likely seen more details of the underwhelming media rights deal than his PAC counterparts. He could know the math, without tipping anything publicly, and laying the groundwork for the exit shortly after the underwhelming release.

With Scheer’s and others reporting, I now feel more confident that Arizona will jump than I did about CU doing so several months ago. But it won’t be until after the the PAC releases #s. UCONN is not even a real candidate, just BY working his magic. We should all sit back and applaud. Patience is uncommon these days. I expect Arizona to be next add, but it may not be until OCT-DEC, which is totally fine.
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The only problem with this theory is the speculation that GK has held off presenting numbers to PAC members precisely because it would trigger an exodus.

How long will AZ or the other school wait? If GK knows more are going to leave the PAC after he presents a deal, why would he be in any hurry to do so? How long will the B12 wait?
 
Daserop said:
I don't understand his tweet and what he's trying to imply.
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PAC media started to trash Colorado when they announced they were in discussions with the big 12 to soften the blow.

One thing no one in PAC country can deny is that PAC basketball dies if Arizona leaves. It's been awful for a while but without Arizona and UCLA....woof.
 
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thakeepa14 said:
That’s one way to look at Robbins being on the PAC exec committee. I think it’s completely a non-issue, other than Arizona being much more likely than CU to require waiting until after the bad media rights deal gets released, to jump. That’s always been the case. BigXII has the leverage now, and has tightened the screws recently.

Related to him being on the exec committee, Robbins has likely seen more details of the underwhelming media rights deal than his PAC counterparts. He could know the math, without tipping anything publicly, and laying the groundwork for the exit shortly after the underwhelming release.

With Scheer’s and others reporting, I now feel more confident that Arizona will jump than I did about CU doing so several months ago. But it won’t be until after the the PAC releases #s. UCONN is not even a real candidate, just BY working his magic. We should all sit back and applaud. Patience is uncommon these days. I expect Arizona to be next add, but it may not be until OCT-DEC, which is totally fine.
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It will happen sooner than that. BY assured that a quick decision by announcing we are going to take one more. That was a message to the other 3 corner schools. ONE is going to get invited. Oregon and Washington will be taken if they commit to the GOR. And they really have no choice. Both could thrive in the Big 12. B1G is going to wait for ND. Wouldn’t have thought I would pass on ASU and Utah. But spots are limited.
 
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exCyDing said:
The only problem with this theory is the speculation that GK has held off presenting numbers to PAC members precisely because it would trigger an exodus.

How long will AZ or the other school wait? If GK knows more are going to leave the PAC after he presents a deal, why would he be in any hurry to do so? How long will the B12 wait?
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BigXII waits for Arizona until OCT-DEC 2023. MU left for SEC in Nov and played that following fall. If there’s no movement by then, and I don’t think that will happen, you stay at 13. The BigXII schools don’t want UCONN, Fox likely doesn’t either.
There’s tons of time left to be patient and have the same outcome. The pressure is solely on them
 
Stormin said:
It will happen sooner than that. BY assured that a quick decision by announcing we are going to take one more. That was a message to the other 3 corner schools. ONE is going to get invited. Oregon and Washington will be taken if they commit to the GOR. And they really have no choice. Both could thrive in the Big 12. B1G is going to wait for ND. Wouldn’t have thought I would pass on ASU and Utah. But spots are limited.
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I think what you’re saying is a possible/likely schedule. I just really want to emphasize it’s not critical to us that Arizona move this week. We have until late fall. BY posturing this way is brilliant
 
Nolaeer said:
To be clear I prefer Az, oregon, washington, ASU, and Utah to uconn, but if none come Uconn is better than not adding a team.

I prefer Uconn to osu, wazzu, stanford, and cal. and to g tech, bc cuse, and wake forest from the ACC.
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Is it, though? If, as it’s been said, UConn doesn’t add to the media deal, you‘re splitting the same pie 14 ways instead of 13 (and yes, I’d assume UConn wouldn’t be getting a full share, but they’d be getting something).
 
WAOR will be there when B12 wants. ESPN/Fox will pay full price for those 2. UCon n can rot. AZ is who we want - ASU/UU made their bed by trashing the B12 . They can go back to G5 slugs in MWC. When AZ joins then Zags/Huskies in for Bball. Stupid if they don’t- which based on this circus we have seen is not out of question.
 
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