Realignment Megathread (All The Moves)

[Gorm]

100% agree with you (and don’t want to cave this) but Vanderbilt rolled over pretty damn quick when people came asking for names and documents. Not going to post a link but a quick google search will give it to ya

Oh wow! I don't really know anything about that. (Seriously) - DM me the link, I'd love to read.

FWIW - Here is the list of other schools that store their conferences "private" documents.

Big 10 - Northwestern
SEC - Vandy
Big 12 - Baylor
ACC - Duke
Pac-12 - Stanford

 

[Rods79]

WAOR is plenty bad. They haven't been as public as Utah but that was because they believed the Big 12 was so far beneath them that they didn't have to comment. With the Colorado news out this past week, their Big 12 bashers came out in full force. In fact, since the recent news, the Utah bashing of the Big 12 has been less and WAOR more.

We’ll see how that opinion shifts when Arizona comes over and all the issues of being at 8 teams finally reaches them.

 

[simply1]

I just don't see the difference between BYU and Utah....6 of one, half dozen of the other...no need to double up there and take up a valuable spot.

It’s about compelling football games and teams, not markets. BYU/Utah would absolutely be watched as a P5 game, and Utah will attract fans of other conferences to tune in because they’ve been good.

 

[SolterraCyclone]

Oh wow! I don't really know anything about that. (Seriously) - DM me the link, I'd love to read.

FWIW - Here is the list of other schools that store their conferences "private" documents.

Big 10 - Northwestern
SEC - Vandy
Big 12 - Baylor
ACC - Duke
Pac-12 - Stanford

I’m interested too. I’ve never considered this angle.

 

[FriendlySpartan]

I’m interested too. I’ve never considered this angle.

Sent to both

 

[SCNCY]

Sent to both

Could you add me to the list? Thanks!

 

[FriendlySpartan]

Could you add me to the list? Thanks!

Ok last one, anyone else can use google

 

[Scruff]

Since Scheer believes Arizona is coming, I believe it. ASU and Utah may have preferred the PAC, but I don't think they're suicidal. I truly think we will get the so-called 4 corners and I'm here for it. Even with overlap, I think they're solid adds. Makes us feel more like a conference adding teams that want to play one another on a regular basis. Let's get 4 of the ACC that make good pairings with Cinci/WVU to solidify us as a national conference and the Power 3 is solidified. Relevant in football, dominant in basketball.

 

[jcyclonee]

 

[MartyFine]

Washington and Oregon have the power here and they know it. They aren't on a timeline.

The Big 12 takes them whether it's this week or October or January.

PAC 12 would have a TV deal if they had any power

 

[theshadow]

Interesting..

USC/UCLA's join date in the B1G (August 2, 2024) may be an indication that the P12 deals all expire on either July 31 or August 1 -- instead of June 30/July 1 like most other conferences.

If that's the case, the standard one-year departure notification deadline is coming up either Monday or Tuesday, and Colorado got in under the wire.

 

[CyCrazy]

That’s a hell of a statement

Its not a stretch.

 

[ISUCubswin]

I believe Arizonas president is in Europe right now. I feel confident things are going on behind the scenes and Arizona will be here by the end of next week, but it’s also probably better if the president is state side when it’s announced and not behind a computer screen

 

[Cyched]

Since Scheer believes Arizona is coming, I believe it. ASU and Utah may have preferred the PAC, but I don't think they're suicidal. I truly think we will get the so-called 4 corners and I'm here for it. Even with overlap, I think they're solid adds. Makes us feel more like a conference adding teams that want to play one another on a regular basis. Let's get 4 of the ACC that make good pairings with Cinci/WVU to solidify us as a national conference and the Power 3 is solidified. Relevant in football, dominant in basketball.

I'll add to this by saying state overlap shouldn't be as important with the direction media is going, and eyeballs/ratings will matter more if you can provide games that generate interest.

If we add all 4 corners, we're adding two solid in-state rivalries. BYU-Utah is a nasty rivalry that will draw ratings. ASU is very visible in PHX, a massive and still growing market.

Same reason why FSU & Clemson would be good SEC adds even thought they didn't make sense under the old cable model.

 

[t-noah]

He also speaks from a position where Michigan and Ohio St are smart enough - for now - not to make the same mistakes the Big 12 made. The question is, how long do the upper schools like Michigan and Ohio St, or Alabama and Georgia in the SEC, want to keep paying the teams like Northwestern, Rutgers, and Vanderbilt? With where ESPN wants to take college athletics, that temptation only grows by the year.

And there will always be a tradeoff for the top 2-3 teams in each of the B1G and SEC. On the one hand, it is nice having a few 'patsies' in the conference, in which to chock up some easy wins. On the other, further greed may come into play and the desire to make even more money, keep it more to themselves.

As you imply, they (the top schools) may not have the only say in the matter. Is our 'friend' espn, going to reorganize things, to their selfish benefit, and make what we still have with college athletics even worse?

 

[jdoggivjc]

Michigan won’t ever make that move. OSU, not sure but kinda doubt it. Also this board kinda needs to make up its mind. Most people talk about all the extra money places like Iowa and Texas have gotten and how they have done nothing with it while at the same time saying the top schools in the most powerful conferences would do this to get more money to do what? Again it’s the presidents making these decisions not the AD’s or coaches.

You say they won't... and yet last weekend I listened to a "Michigan man" sports radio host talk all show about how Northwestern should do what the U of Chicago did 70ish years ago and leave the Big 10 on its own accord because they just can't compete anymore - and a LOT of people called in and agreed with him. Yes, that's just one voice in a sea of many, but to say that that particular viewpoint doesn't exist because "Michigan would never..." is being blind and deaf to what money typically does to human decision making.

 

[FriendlySpartan]

You say they won't... and yet last weekend I listened to a "Michigan man" sports radio host talk all show about how Northwestern should do what the U of Chicago did 70ish years ago and leave the Big 10 on its own accord because they just can't compete anymore - and a LOT of people called in and agreed with him. Yes, that's just one voice in a sea of many, but to say that that particular viewpoint doesn't exist because "Michigan would never..." is being blind and deaf to what money typically does to human decision making.

That’s talk radio my man. A sparty talk radio show last week suggested that any Michigan fans attending the night game this year would be assaulted. As someone who is a “Michigan man” god I hate that term, I can also promise you most calling into a radio show aren’t alumni.

 

[t-noah]

And there will always be a tradeoff for the top 2-3 teams in each of the B1G and SEC. On the one hand, it is nice having a few 'patsies' in the conference, in which to chock up some easy wins. On the other, further greed may come into play and the desire to make even more money, keep it more to themselves.

As you imply, they (the top schools) may not have the only say in the matter. Is our 'friend' espn, going to reorganize things, to their selfish benefit, and make what we still have with college athletics even worse?

To add to this, it would be a mistake, and a severe slap in the face to the common fan, for the 'powers that be' (media partners) to solely focus on two Power conferences in the future, at the expense of the others.

I mean they are already doing that. But doing it even more will be the death of college football as they might think it could be.

 

[Clonedogg]

We’ll see how that opinion shifts when Arizona comes over and all the issues of being at 8 teams finally reaches them.

...Or when they see they are going to have to replace CU and UA with SDSU, SMU, Tulane, etc.

 

[t-noah]

Michigan won’t ever make that move. OSU, not sure but kinda doubt it. Also this board kinda needs to make up its mind. Most people talk about all the extra money places like Iowa and Texas have gotten and how they have done nothing with it while at the same time saying the top schools in the most powerful conferences would do this to get more money to do what? Again it’s the presidents making these decisions not the AD’s or coaches.

How does our board 'making up its mind' have ANY bearing on things?