SIAP. It's kinda hard to keep up with this thread, but this is hilarious.
Realignment Megathread (All The Moves)
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Empathy, my man. We are Oregon State and Washington State. We’re just fortunate enough to be in the Midwest instead of the west coast.
The money grab and realignment stuff is complete ********. This isn’t what college athletics are supposed to be. I’m glad we came out on top but I’m not gonna **** on the decent schools that have been relegated to a lesser tier.
Appreciating an opponent after win is alright. Especially when they were drug into it by the bigger guys. A couple bounces in the other direction and we’d be looking forward to some MACtion.
I understand what you’re saying and appreciate it. I just don’t think there was any empathy for us when we were getting kicked to the curb. If there had been, I’d appreciate the reciprocal even more.
When OUT was announced and the H8ful 8 were looking for a lifeline and the PAC stood pat... what I want to know specifically... is what those two were advocating. If they were "Ooo, too bad for those 8. Sorry, so sorry." then I say F 'em. If they were voting for conference consolidation with us, then I do genuinely feel sorry for them.
I think the schools in our position would have shown it if we actually were. There’s going to be a lot of hate generated against the SEC and B1G because of this ******** and the college football fans from the middle tier aren’t going to tune in to the SEC/B1G games like the networks think they will.
I’m sure they pressed the “death to the big 12” narrative more than anyone else in the conference (once again, just like we would) because they’re the ones with the most to lose. There’s no fallback plan for them like Oregon and Arizona.
I’m still not gonna **** on them.
I don’t understand your first sentence. We were going to the Big East in 2011. We had agreed to go there when the Big12 exploded. It was going to happen, and remember…the Pac12 was in the middle of that. And guess what? Neither Oregon State or Washington State gave a ****, including their nice fans.
Fast forward to two years ago when OU and UT announced they were leaving. The Big12 approached the Pac12 about a merger. The Pac12 said “no”, and neither Oregon State or Washington State gave a ****, including their nice fans.
I’ve had a couple pops and am gonna bow out of this one for tonight. I’m not sure if I understand my first sentence either. Lol
Hilarious addition to the emojis btw.
What I’ve heard is usc, UCLA, Stanford and cal killed that. I think others may have liked it.
I would say they are playing shoots and ladders while everyone else is playing put a guy on Mars
Not on tv station or internet stream gives one rip about academics. They care about advertising dollars and buying live streaming. Nobody at Stanford or Cal bring viewership. They are screwed more than Washington State and Oregon State in my opinion
Except for the part about what college athletics should or shouldn't be this is really good.
College athletics especially football has always been a big money grab.
Yeah, but it would be totally on-brand for the PAC to present offers that are so horrible they would trigger an exodus after the exodus has already begun.
Agreed. I don't mind the discussion of "who goes where and what can the Big 12 get?", but people having the discussion that ACC teams should be our next move aren't living in realignment reality. I'm not overly concerned about what our moves should be a decade from now when our priority is burying the Pac 12 now.
I can feel bad for their fans and still easily sleep well at night after seeing their programs relegated out of power conferences while ISU's position is further secured. My mind is complex enough to do both. Just because I sympathize for them doesn't mean I'm going to feel guilty about doing what needs to be done.
I don't know about the Pac 12, but I do know a number of Big 10 not Iowa fans (even Michigan fans) that did sympathize with our position and even went far enough to wish it was ISU in the Big 10 and not Iowa. Not everyone is cheering for the demise of ISU athletics.
Their contract is written, that anyone that comes in must sign the current GOR.
The added teams would get pro rata...of $17M.
If teams join that are significant increase in value, (not average value of current ACC teams) they can open the negotiation up for an increase. But most if not all available teams will not be a significant increase. Unless they get ND full time, or able to poach from the SEC or B1G. Opening negotiations for an increase in this case does nothing to the GOR, it is separate and still enforce.
No one is going to the ACC for that pro rata and/or GOR.
Absolutely. Nobody seems eager to try to break the GOR, no matter how good of lawyers they might have, or how much money they’d be “losing out in” by not being somewhere else.
For the same reason, if expansion opens up the GOR, it’s going to get voted down something like 11-4 or 9-6 (10-4/8-6 if ND doesn’t get a vote).