one of the the divisions did indeed go 0-6. After Georgia Tech trashed one of their teams, their coach said can we stop hearing about the SEC now?
Realignment Megathread (All The Moves)
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Central Florida is joining the Big 12.
Besides more money Nebby is the biggest loser. They will be wandering the desert in Fb the rest of my life. **** them, the fans, and especially that pos Osborne. **** them all.
Mizzou is weirdest one. Looking back with today's hindsight, I suppose it was the right move.
On the plus side:
- They have a seat at the big kids table.
- They have a lot more money
- They should have a leg up in recruiting MO/KS/IL if all kids want to play in the SEC (as so many of them have told me)
On the down side:
- They have no rivals in their own conference (Their "rivalry" with Arkansas is a joke. The Razorbacks couldn't give two ***** about them)
- They are the northern outpost in a southern conference. Similar to Iowa State which as we know brings challenges
- They have almost no realistic chances of winning the conference.
So they're in one of the two superleagues which is good. But if you have no rivals, little chance of winning the conference and a tough row to hoe to out-recruit your conference mates, your fan engagment is going to suffer. There is no question they've seen that.
The Mizzou fans I know for ten years constantly told me how great it was to be in a conference that wasn't ruled by Texas.
Meet the new boss....same as the old boss.
Is it when you know you have no chance to ever compete for anything?
I know a lot of Iowa fans who are pretty freaking concerned about their future in light of the new Big 10.
If you go back a decade 5 different teams have won the big ten. No reason Iowa couldn’t if they got the right coaching staff. Similar for some other teams in the big ten or SEC. Also it will be eaiser to get into the playoff coming from those leagues due to the media love. Playoff appearances will be pretty close to conference championships in appeal in a few years I would imagine.
Good point. Personally, I think the Mizzou fans are lying to themselves with how much they love the SEC. The older one's have outright told me they miss the Big 8 and while they'd rather be in the SEC as opposed the the Big 12, they'd rather be in the old Big 8 more than the SEC. Several Nebraska fans have told me that as well. Definitley doesn't mean thats the mindset of the fanbases as a whole, just what I've heard.
The biggest difference is I think Iowa still has a punchers chance in the Big Ten as opposed to Mizzou in the SEC. If Iowa gets a favorable schedule and is on their game in the title game against a team like Ohio State, they can win. There are just so many heavyweights now in the SEC I don't see how often Mizzou even will have a chance to make it that far. A favorable schedule in the SEC is a much tougher animal than a favorable schedule in the Big Ten.
Personally I don’t think they would look much different in the current Big 12 for all of the reasons that have been noted
Great points. Has to be a weird feeling knowing that you will NEVER win a conference championship and there’s a high likelihood that you won’t ever even see a CCG.
Since when have athletic departments judged the positive or negative outcomes on what's fun for the fans? It's all about the money now. And by that metric, Nebraska's move to the Big10 has been a huge success.
Yeah but for mizzu how is that any different than they have ever been? They last won a conference title in the 60’s, and when they made it to a CCG they lose by 20+ points on average. It’s not like they fell, they were never really up to begin with.
They cared about Colorado. They enjoyed playing the rest of the teams with short road trips. They did not like losing to the rest of the teams.
You could say that for the majority of schools but Nebby was already flush before that. They are a cult so it’s different. Big 10 money doesn’t make up for Losing the donors and boosters and STH’s at some point.
If they were in the Big 12 they would have a chance. Would it happen? Probably not for what you noted above but at least there’s a chance it could happen. That is not true in the SEC especially now that Texas and OU are in the mix.
I mean, it wasn't that along ago that was what mattered because fan engagement equaled money. It's only been relatively recently that the money you earn through conference affiliation trumps everything else.
Kansas City Star article on Central Florida and their AD, Terry Mohajir, and the last round of realignment more generally:
ca.finance.yahoo.com
A Big 12 tale: Why this athletic boss now wants to defeat teams he loved as a kid in KC
Terry Mohajir grew up in Kansas City and coached football at Kansas. Now, he’s bringing Central Florida into the conference he knows well.
The problem with that argument is Ferentz is the right coach for Iowa. Without Ferentz, they would have record like Illini, Indiana or Huskers over the last decade.
Obviously, if they catch lightning in a bottle, maybe there is a year they could get in 12 team playoff. But it better happen before Washington and Oregon join.
Nebraska has been a disaster since Pelini left. They had four years of the Big 10 where they won 9 or 10 games.
They had seven straight seasons of 9 or 10 wins. Three in the Big 12 then three in the Big 10. Riley also won 6 and 9 in his first two seasons. So they went to 7 bowls to start their Big 10 play. As a comparison they went to bowls in 5 of their last 7 seasons in the Big 12.
Are people arguing that it took year 8 of being in the Big 10 before it really drug their program down?
People need to stop comparing what happened a quarter of a century ago and think that is remotely relevant to how things would be for Nebraska in the Big 12 now. As long as they would've still hired Riley and Frost, they'd be a Big 12 bottom feeder.
I get that, so Nebraska was playing a EIU Fry schedule after he got control of scheduling, but I will give those teams some credit, they were on the cutting edge of weight training, at the time. Most likely lots of kids taking roids, but that has never been proven. They knew where their bread was buttered, running the ball and they we great at it.
No matter how bad the teams you are playing are, you still have to beat them, and Nebraska and OU were great at it. You can respect a team and what they are doing and still hate them all the same.
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SIAP but this is a really fascinating read about how UCF rose and USF simultaneously fell. It seems the vast majority of it is just football success but being the first to have a real on campus stadium was key, seems just any stadium on campus was more important than having it be some greatest stadium ever.
Really shows how you can benefit from having football success at the right time. The football success of the two programs really was one sided USF and then a total flip to UCF doing great and USF doing horribly.
www.tampabay.com
Really shows how you can benefit from having football success at the right time. The football success of the two programs really was one sided USF and then a total flip to UCF doing great and USF doing horribly.
How USF lost (and UCF won) the conference realignment War on I-4
15 years ago, USF was lightyears ahead of UCF. So why are the Knights, not Bulls, headed to the Big 12?