So is this a we're leaving to the PAC, but can't confirm until Colorado officially leaves? Or are they Colorado's partner to the Big12, but can't be sure until Colorado leaves the PAC?
Realignment Megathread (All The Moves)
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So is this a we're leaving to the PAC, but can't confirm until Colorado officially leaves? Or are they Colorado's partner to the Big12, but can't be sure until Colorado leaves the PAC?
It's gotta be either 2 or 3. PAC isn't in a position to expand. They're either a PAC backfill or a partner with CU. They basically got the Iowa non-commitable offer.
Or is it a “the pac 12 doesn’t have a tv deal so we aren’t going to leave the MWC where we could potentially make more money and have better exposure than in the PAC”
Honestly I'm kind of surprised the pac 12 isnt inviting them either way. If they stay together they would probably want them to keep their presence in southern california. If they dont, the remnants definitely need that backfill
As I mentioned above…the PAC is a disaster. Absolute unmitigated disaster. Don’t see many sports reporters noting this in their reporting. ********.
George K. and the Pac fans believe this new deal is an outlier and that they won't be hamstrung by the economy, ESPN layoffs, Fox not involved, Big 12 going first, etc. the next time around, in about 5 years. Thus, Pac schools have to weigh going to a new conference for long term or sticking it out with the schools they want to be a part of knowing the monetary and exposure impact will be a blip. That is what the Pac is thinking.
Potentially. But it could be #1 too and they anticipated the deal to get done by June 30.
It’s possible the reason they need an extension is the deal may or may not be finalized by June 30.
I don’t see why SDSU would submit this unless they had a landing spot secured.
Agree so I think the hesitation is probably on SDSU’s part. If the PAC totally implodes (WAOR, 4 Corners all gone)they may want to stick MWC and have the remnants join them there.
Yep, the incompetence of GK and the Pac now having domino effect on the Mountain West. Why **** up one conference when you can **** up two?
I’m sure the MWC will gladly waive the $17M penalty and grant the request. Lol.
Even that doesnt make sense to me though.
A pac remnants+best of the mwc backfill conference likely gets a better deal (because it can dump the lowest performing MWC schools)
I thought about that too. Depends how much distaste those schools would have for Stanford and Cal I think.
I stand corrected here after reading the article. It sounds like SDSU’s letter was more to ask for an extension on the year’s notice/exit fee increase. Probably to give more time for a P12 deal and subsequent invite.
The MWC basically said screw you and we take the letter as intent to resign. SDSU’s AD tried to backtrack but now they’re in a terrible position. I’m speechless SDSU could fumble something that poorly. They’ll fit right in with the P12 if/when they get an invite.
I still think that if none of the 4 corners schools move, then SDSU is coming to the Big 12. I don't necessarily want that to happen, but I assume that is what will happen. Our new commish is obsessed with expanding to the west.
I think a lot of people are misinterpreting all the "we're staying together, we're committed to the PAC" talk as meaning no one wants to leave, they all hate the idea of associating with the Big XII, etc.
Fact is, Arizona and ASU have been unhappy in that conference for years. UCLA's athletics budget has such a gigantic hole in it that they were going to have to drop a bunch of sports if they stayed. You'd assume others in the conference have similar financial issues.
Colorado has made far less money as a PAC member than they would've had they stayed in the Big XII. Their football program is a shell of its former self, and their facilities are now way behind other P-5 schools.
The Buffs football team looks very WAC like. It was really noticeable in the game I watched last year when they played TCU. The speed, size, strength, athleticism difference was hugely in TCU's favor
PAC teams staying in that conference risk becoming so far behind other P-5 teams that they'll never catch up.
So really you have to think all this chummy comaraderie is just a show so a media deal can somehow get cobbled together. This way teams leaving can do so with a clear conscience that they didn't blow things up, and did everything they could to keep things together until the very end.
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